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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 09:44 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
See, frazod, this is what butthurt looks like.
What do I have to be butthurt about? Just explaining the ku mindset.
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BigCatDaddy 09:45 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.
Are you seriously trying to lump mens's basketball in with all the other "secondary sports"?
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Frazod 09:45 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Please .

I've got 3,000 posts and make you lay awake at night fuming.

It's almost too much for. Makes me feel guilty.
You're the dumbest sonofabitch ever to post here. You make CoMo look like a Rhodes scholar. You make Hootie look dignified and mature. You are the BB laughingstock and viewed as a pariah by nearly all of your fellow KU types, and the only person who tolerates your antics is a guy who just thinks it's funny that your dumbassery annoys other people.

Yeah, you must be really proud. :-)
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Pants 09:46 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
What do I have to be butthurt about? Just explaining the ku mindset.
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt cunt. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?
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eazyb81 09:47 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Are you seriously trying to lump mens's basketball in with all the other "secondary sports"?
Of course. Men's basketball revenue is much closer to men's baseball than football. Football drives the bus and funds the rest of the teams at most schools.
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Pants 10-19-2011, 09:47 AM
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Bambi 09:48 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
You're the dumbest sonofabitch ever to post here. You make CoMo look like a Rhodes scholar. You make Hootie look dignified and mature. You are the BB laughingstock and viewed as a pariah by nearly all of your fellow KU types, and the only person who tolerates your antics is a guy who just thinks it's funny that your dumbassery annoys other people.

Yeah, you must be really proud. :-)
Maybe its time you rounded up the Wicked 21 again.

Talk about maturity.
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Frazod 09:49 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt cunt. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?
Yet accusing an entire conference of being pointy-hat wearing racists and likening Missouri (or, as you put it, "Missourah") to West Virginia was enlightened and well-reasoned, correct?
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eazyb81 09:49 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt ****. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?
The commitment to football from the university and fanbase is the same as the commuter schools I mentioned, if not worse.
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Bambi 09:49 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Of course. Men's basketball revenue is much closer to men's baseball than football. Football drives the bus and funds the rest of the teams at most schools.
And yet your school has less than KU.

I wonder why that is...... hmmmmmmmmm
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Frazod 09:50 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Maybe its time you rounded up the Wicked 21 again.

Talk about maturity.
Are those the same 21 guys who'll get your rep back in the green? :-)
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Bambi 09:53 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt ****. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?
If KU has a "shit program" then what does MU have?

Did MU get good all of a sudden?

What is their record this year?
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Pants 09:54 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
So you're not a fit with the deep South, so you're hitching your wagon to Texas and Oklahoma. That makes sense.
I'm hitching my wagon to the Midwest (which is admittedly much more barren now, seeing as 90% of the Midwestern teams have left) and to the Southwest.
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eazyb81 09:54 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
And yet your school has less than KU.

I wonder why that is...... hmmmmmmmmm
I would guess it is because 1) you are thrilled with excelling in a secondary sport and pour everything into it, and 2) Big 12 football TV contracts are very weak. Both points have been discussed constantly in this thread so try to think before posting again in the future.

Kansas football, a program your fanbase couldn't care less about, still brings in more revenue than basketball. Hmmmmm indeed.
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Bambi 09:54 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
Are those the same 21 guys who'll get your rep back in the green? :-)
Get it going.

I want to see if you can find more than 21 this time around.

You put so much time into I'd feel terrible if your efforts weren't rewarded this time.
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Mr. Plow 09:55 AM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.

Again, we do excel at a secondary sport. And it sucks to constantly be in the National Title talk in that sport nearly every year. I know you aren't used to talking about being in the National Title hunt, but it's fun....even if it is just basketball.

You guys can enjoy....well, whatever the fuck a football team that is 1 game ahead of lowly KU in the shitty Big 12 enjoys.

Good luck in the SEC. I'm sure with all the domination of the Big 12 you guys have had, your 1st SEC championship is just right around the corner.
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