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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official Car and Gearhead Thread***
BigRedChief 12:29 PM 03-17-2015
Seems like we need one on here to talk cars, mods and the coolness of your or their car.

Interested? Chime in
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DJ's left nut 10:25 AM 05-22-2024
I think Detox is just ghosting me...

"What - you want free advice....oh no, I can't see your photos!"

:-)
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ToxSocks 10:34 AM 05-22-2024
Oh hey look i can see them now, haha. Dafuq
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ToxSocks 10:35 AM 05-22-2024
How wide is the front wheel? Is that a 17x8? Do you know the backspace on that wheel?
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DJ's left nut 10:41 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by ModSocks:
How wide is the front wheel? Is that a 17x8? Do you know the backspace on that wheel?
I thought it was 9 when I put a tape on it, but I think I measured wrong; it's probably 8. Surely nobody would've put a 9 up there. But when I measured lip to lip from the inside of the wheel, it was 9 inches.

And no, i don't know the backspace (because I don't know how to do all that).

I really should've just watched some youtube videos and done all this stuff myself. I'm not completely worthless around a car and a tape measure.
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loochy 10:42 AM 05-22-2024
My new toy :-)






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DJ's left nut 10:47 AM 05-22-2024
That's an M8, right?

Duuuuuude - that's pretty badass right there.
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loochy 10:48 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
That's an M8, right?

Duuuuuude - that's pretty badass right there.

Yeahp, an M8 Competition. I love how low and sleek it is.


Wanna buy my old M2?
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DJ's left nut 10:50 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by loochy:
Yeahp, an M8 Competition. I love how low and sleek it is.


Wanna buy my old M2?
Does it have a 3rd row?
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loochy 10:57 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Does it have a 3rd row?

It has a first row and a second row just big enough for my 9 year old son. :-)
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ToxSocks 10:57 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I thought it was 9 when I put a tape on it, but I think I measured wrong; it's probably 8. Surely nobody would've put a 9 up there. But when I measured lip to lip from the inside of the wheel, it was 9 inches.

And no, i don't know the backspace (because I don't know how to do all that).

I really should've just watched some youtube videos and done all this stuff myself. I'm not completely worthless around a car and a tape measure.
Im taking a look now.

But when i look at what's available to me, there's no aluminum 15" Rally. I have access to a 17" Aluminum Rally.....are you familiar with the Salt Flat Special? Similar, not the same, but similar. Can do those in a 15".

Here's the recommended back spacing for the front, as per American Racing:

15x7 = 3-3/4" Back Space
17x7 = 4" Back Space
17x8 = 4.5"-4-3/4" Back Space.

If you're willing to do a 17" Aluminum Rally, that's model number VN506 and they currently have 17x8" blanks available.

If you wanna take a look at the the Salt Flat Special, that's a VN471. Those can be done in a 15".
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ToxSocks 10:58 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by loochy:
My new toy :-)





Congrats dude. Great looking coupe.
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ToxSocks 11:05 AM 05-22-2024
Got a company called "Rev Wheels". Never used them before, but they're a Holley brand. They offer a silver painted Rally in a 17x7 through 20".

Probably a lot cheaper than the American Racing variant, they're aluminum. But they're painted/machined, not polished.

https://www.holley.com/products/whee...s/107S-7700600

Looking more and more like if you want a 15" Rally it's gonna be steel.
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DJ's left nut 11:13 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by ModSocks:
Got a company called "Rev Wheels". Never used them before, but they're a Holley brand. They offer a silver painted Rally in a 17x7 through 20".

Probably a lot cheaper than the American Racing variant, they're aluminum. But they're painted/machined, not polished.

https://www.holley.com/products/whee...s/107S-7700600

Looking more and more like if you want a 15" Rally it's gonna be steel.
Yeah - I think you're right. Probably just going to go with steel.

Like I said - it has 17s on it now. So unless I swap out the drop spindles, I don't see any way to put 17s on there, put them out where they need to be and not have to worry about fender rub.

I think that's really the issue - i just don't want a dropped look and there's no way to avoid that with the drop spindles in front. Take those out and I get the floor raised, then I can get the more aggressive front/back stagger I'm looking for.

Guy that restored the car wanted a more pro-touring look and that's just not the look I'm after these days. So I think I putting ordinary spindles in there with the coilovers will buy me as much space as I need. At THAT point I may be able to get away with the 17 and add the sidewall I want (though at that point it may just be too much tire/wheel).

And it would probably look/drive better than trying to fit 15s under there with the drop spindles in.
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DJ's left nut 11:16 AM 05-22-2024
Damn - those Rev Wheels look awfully good. Exactly what I'm thinking; classic look, not too flashy but not the cap/trim ring steelies look either. Just a clean and finished Rallye wheel.

Whats your thought on the drop-spindle? If I swap those out, am I maybe on the right track?
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ToxSocks 11:57 AM 05-22-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - I think you're right. Probably just going to go with steel.

Like I said - it has 17s on it now. So unless I swap out the drop spindles, I don't see any way to put 17s on there, put them out where they need to be and not have to worry about fender rub.

I think that's really the issue - i just don't want a dropped look and there's no way to avoid that with the drop spindles in front. Take those out and I get the floor raised, then I can get the more aggressive front/back stagger I'm looking for.

Guy that restored the car wanted a more pro-touring look and that's just not the look I'm after these days. So I think I putting ordinary spindles in there with the coilovers will buy me as much space as I need. At THAT point I may be able to get away with the 17 and add the sidewall I want (though at that point it may just be too much tire/wheel).

And it would probably look/drive better than trying to fit 15s under there with the drop spindles in.
Really doubt it's the drop spindle. Part of the drop spindle's purpose is to correct the suspension geometry when the car is lowered, so the wheel properly tucks into the wheel well.

It's much more likely your rubbing issue is caused by:

1. Incorrect front wheel offset. Even in your picture they seem to protrude a bit much. Gotta confirm that backspace. Start there.
2. Incorrect tire size.
3. Suspension misalignment

Hard to say without having the car here, but that's what we would check first.

I asked my lead tech (so you know it's not just me saying this) and he agrees that it's likely nothing to do with your drop spindle.

Also, how much of a drop is the spindle? 2"? 1.5"?

Our general rule of thumb when it comes to drop spindles is that, if you're only trying to drop the car an 1", dont use a drop spindle but instead use the adjustments in the coil over.

If you want to go more than an 1", then you use a drop spindle otherwise over adjusting the coil over etc will result in poor suspension geometry.
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