I just feel like everyone is going to spend all week talking about Mahomes' ankle or Burrow being a Demigod or Chase against this young secondary or Lou Anarumo being a psychopath...and then in the end it's just going to Samaje Perine bludgeoning Bolton and Gay to death.
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
None of that matters.
Late 4th quarter, 4th 16 penalty when the game would have been over. Being over and still time to play are worlds apart. Every team has mistakes. I'm talking about a game being over on one play.
Without the penalty, Rice catches the ball.
The problem was that your underneath DB gave the rookie no choice but to play through the receiver. It wasn't a stupid penalty on the rookies part; he did everything he could do there to try to salvage an impossible situation.
It was an execution error that cost you the game. Same thing that usually costs teams the game when you're nursing a 1-score lead into the waning minutes against a superior QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.
You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.
We get it. KC was an offsides away from denying Brady his sixth ring. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.
You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.
Technically, the Patriots could probably say the same thing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.
You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.
Definitely a very thin margin between success and failure in the NFL. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.
You make a couple of unstated assumptions here. First, you assume that if the "stupid rookie" hadn't committed DPI, the receiver would not have caught the ball for a first down.
Second, you assume that if the rookie holder had not fumbled the snap, that the kicker would have made the field goal.
These are some pretty big assumptions. You conclude by saying two plays made the difference, but with those assumptions in place, there is much more than two plays that are the difference. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Without the penalty, Rice catches the ball.
The problem was that your underneath DB gave the rookie no choice but to play through the receiver. It wasn't a stupid penalty on the rookies part; he did everything he could do there to try to salvage an impossible situation.
It was an execution error that cost you the game. Same thing that usually costs teams the game when you're nursing a 1-score lead into the waning minutes against a superior QB.
He doesn't have to play through the receiver. If he has any kind of awareness, he plays it on the side to completetely avoid going through the receiver.
The sad part is, he wasn't even aware a receiver was right in front of him because he "was playing the ball".
Honestly though, i put more on Lou for only rushing 3. Pre-snap i thought, "that's a bad idea". [Reply]
Originally Posted by RedinTexas:
You make a couple of unstated assumptions here. First, you assume that if the "stupid rookie" hadn't committed DPI, the receiver would not have caught the ball for a first down.
Second, you assume that if the rookie holder had not fumbled the snap, that the kicker would have made the field goal.
These are some pretty big assumptions. You conclude by saying two plays made the difference, but with those assumptions in place, there is much more than two plays that are the difference.
I don't think they're that big. I use the rookie because he was the one that committed the foul. If the 4th and 16 is executed better by all involved is a better way to say it. I wasn't happy at all that Lou only rushed 3 to give Pat all day to throw.
I don't remember the specifics but they threw up a couple stats about Evan in that situation and it's a pretty safe bet to say he would have made it. He's made all of his 50+ yarders this year and there was no wind at the time of the kick. [Reply]
