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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:38 AM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Byner's fumble? The drive?

No, He was great. Any other argument is either from those who didn't see him play, or those who just hate Denver.
You can be really good and also overrated.

What makes me laugh are the suggestions that Elway would throw for 6,000 yds and 70 TDs today. I think a lot of them actually believe that.
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Pasta Little Brioni 11:31 AM 11-05-2022
Less athletic white Lamar
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RedinTexas 11:37 AM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Elway's era compared to the modern era is far closer than Elway's era compared to Dawson's era.

And Dawson kicked his ass by throwing 30+ TDs in a season. IN A 14 GAME SEASON.

Elway is a ****ing pussy.
Dawson also spent 5 years riding the pine in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Then after he came to the Texans/Chiefs, he played for the very conservative Hank Stram. Imagine what a coach like Andy Reid or Don Coryell might have gotten out of Dawson over all the years of his career.
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TEX 11:55 AM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Byner's fumble? The drive?

No, He was great. Any other argument is either from those who didn't see him play, or those who just hate Denver.
I HATE Denver. Elway SUCKED! :-)
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Quesadilla Joe 03:46 PM 11-05-2022

Wild stat heading into Week 9 of the NFL season: Greg Dulcich leads all rookie TEs in receiving yards with 182. He has played three games.

No. 2 on the list is Baltimore’s Isaiah Likely, who has 181 yards … in eight games.

— Nick Kosmider (@NickKosmider) :-)?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2022


:-)
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FlaChief58 03:58 PM 11-05-2022
Another wild stat. WalRuss is the 32nd ranked qb and cost dungver 2 drafts, 3 players and a quarter billion dollars
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Marcellus 04:16 PM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Elway's era compared to the modern era is far closer than Elway's era compared to Dawson's era.

And Dawson kicked his ass by throwing 30+ TDs in a season. IN A 14 GAME SEASON.

Elway is a ****ing pussy.
Len Dawson may be one of the most underrated QBs ever. Dude was insane for his time.
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Marcellus 04:18 PM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:


:-)
Even your dumbass knows Likely was also playing with Andrews starting.
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Marcellus 04:20 PM 11-05-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
You can be really good and also overrated.

What makes me laugh are the suggestions that Elway would throw for 6,000 yds and 70 TDs today. I think a lot of them actually believe that.
Those numbers are absurd and would never happen but Elway would be really good in today's NFL, it just is what it is.

Dude took a beating in his career.

Marino on the other hand, holy hell who knows what he could do in todays NFL.
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Rainbarrel 07:37 PM 11-05-2022
Marshawn Lynch FedExed his subway commercial tire to Russ over the Bronco bye
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Mile High Mania 09:16 AM 11-06-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Don't you think most solid QBs who start almost every game for 16-17 years are going to amass stats?

Matt Ryan is #9 all time. Carson Palmer is #15.
I’ll let you think it through… why have so many QBs in the last 25 years achieved big stats?
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Quesadilla Joe 09:39 AM 11-06-2022
No more mentioning Jeudy’s drops…

Jeudy’s career drop rate: 6.7%

League average drop rate in 2021: 6.1%

Jeudy’s career drop rate outside of one outlying performance against the Chargers from his rookie year: 4.3%

— Zach Segars (@Zach_Segars) November 6, 2022

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RaidersOftheCellar 09:48 AM 11-06-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
I’ll let you think it through… why have so many QBs in the last 25 years achieved big stats?
Matt Ryan hasn’t even put up big TD numbers in this era. He’s never thrown 40 and has only thrown 30 a few times. And yet he’s #9 all time. I’ll let you figure out why.
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RaidersOftheCellar 09:49 AM 11-06-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
No more mentioning Jeudy’s drops…

Better than not being mentioned at all, isn’t it?
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tredadda 09:52 AM 11-06-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I know you guys are trolling the Donks fans, but Elway was something beyond the statistics.

The closest sports analogue I can think is-

He was George Brett.

A guy who, yeah, he racked up the stats and everything but it had more to do with WHEN he would make a play. Elway won more games he had no business winning than anyone else I ever saw.

As a Chiefs fan, I hated him. And over the years, it became begrudging respect. It's not luck when it just keeps happening. Those three SB losing teams he had were terrible and had no business even making it to the SB, but Elway just kind of willed them to that game.
I am no Broncos fan nor am I am Elway fan, but to compare his stats to modern QBs is silly. He played in an era when QBs didn’t put up the same numbers they do now. For their generation only Marino was more prolific. Elway did win a lot of games in big situations outside the SB.
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