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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Reerun_KC 01:58 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
But KK is a big Mizzou fan according to him. He loves Mizzou!
NOT.

He is the lone voice of KSU Athletics department...

He is Ballsack!
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track 01:59 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by evenfall:
It's not like the local media ever spent a huge amount of time covering Texas/Texas A&M or other games far afield while still being in the conference. I am sure the coverage of the SEC would all be from an MU perspective. Keitzman just acted a fool through the whole process, swearing there was no interest in Missouri, that the big 12 is more stable, that it would be foolish, that the money really isn't better, and also, scaring fans that their school won't get media coverage. He was trying to wield whatever influence he had on the process, no doubt about that. Turns out is didn't have much, even after trying everything.

He almost seems to have been going through the Kubler/Ross grief stages over the demise of the B12.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

I wonder what will be heard today. Anger? Sour grapes? This is an upgrade? Acceptance...?
Apparently you guys who are so outraged by KK's position don't understand he is a KSU guy. Of course he is going to want the Big 12 to stay together and of course he isn't going to be very interested in the SEC if MU goes there. Why would you expect him to feel any other way. I am sure most of you felt the same way about Nebraska when they left the conference ...don't be hypocrites and act like it's bad when Nebraska leaves but it's great when MU leaves.
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Saulbadguy 02:00 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
NOT.

He is the lone voice of KSU Athletics department...

He is Ballsack!
That...is inaccurate.
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DeezNutz 02:02 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by track:
Apparently you guys who are so outraged by KK's position don't understand he is a KSU guy. Of course he is going to want the Big 12 to stay together and of course he isn't going to be very interested in the SEC if MU goes there. Why would you expect him to feel any other way. I am sure most of you felt the same way about Nebraska when they left the conference ...don't be hypocrites and act like it's bad when Nebraska leaves but it's great when MU leaves.
I think most intellectually honest people said that it was great for Nebraska that they left. At the time, the departures challenged the integrity of the Big XII, but the only people to blame for that are the administrators who developed and structured an unsound conference.
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Saul Good 02:10 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by DeezNutz:
I think most intellectually honest people said that it was great for Nebraska that they left. At the time, the departures challenged the integrity of the Big XII, but the only people to blame for that are the administrators who developed and structured an unsound conference.
Nebraska is a proud (junior) member if the B1G, and it was a good move for them.

Perhaps the B1G should call themselves the Big XIi in order to avoid confusion. When Nebraska is no longer a junior member, they can capitalize the second "i".
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veist 02:11 PM 10-18-2011
Congratulations to Missouri on their upcoming big move to the SEC East so that Auburn doesn't get a recruiting advantage over Alabama in Florida and Georgia!
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kstater 02:11 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by veist:
Congratulations to Missouri on their upcoming big move to the SEC East so that Auburn doesn't get a recruiting advantage over Alabama in Florida and Georgia!
Don't worry, everyone's equal in the SEC.
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veist 02:16 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
Don't worry, everyone's equal in the SEC.
I know, some of them are just more equal. They have to make sure that the equality is just right.
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mnchiefsguy 02:17 PM 10-18-2011
KK says Mizzou will never win 10 games in a season again as long he will be on the radio if they go.....

I guess we could call it the KK curse?
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Saul Good 02:17 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by veist:
Congratulations to Missouri on their upcoming big move to the SEC East so that Auburn doesn't get a recruiting advantage over Alabama in Florida and Georgia!
I will gladly take the recruiting advantage in Georgia and Florida.
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Saul Good 02:19 PM 10-18-2011
Holy shit! A KSU grad and a KU grad are discussing MU, and Boal is claiming to be an objective outsider because he didn't go to a Big XII school.
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Titty Meat 02:20 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by DeezNutz:
I think most intellectually honest people said that it was great for Nebraska that they left. At the time, the departures challenged the integrity of the Big XII, but the only people to blame for that are the administrators who developed and structured an unsound conference.
Must on here cried like bitches and said the move was because they couldn't beat Texas.
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Dayze 02:23 PM 10-18-2011
I've never heard someone so scared/angry that another team is moving to a better conference than KK.
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tredadda 02:27 PM 10-18-2011
Any way to listen to his rants for someone who does not live in the KC metro area?
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Saul Good 02:27 PM 10-18-2011
You know its bad when te Oklahoma guy, Todd Leabo, is defending Mizzou.
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