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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Pants 03:38 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:

I guess all the WVU slurpers will now need some time to change their argument to fit Louisville. :-)
Examples? Because I could swear it's always been either,or/both.
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Bambi 03:39 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by DeezNutz:
Venom.
Retread.
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WilliamTheIrish 03:41 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Of course A&M wanted out of the Big Leftover conference, which is why they left.

Again - why should that end the UT-A&M annual rivalry game? Are you under the impression that annual rivalry games are never between non-conference schools?

I would actually use my pimp-hoe analogy here instead of a scorned woman one. The remaining hoes are going to get an extra beating now that the UT's top hoe left them.
By all means indulge in your analogy. God knows how incredibly interesting they are to read.
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HemiEd 03:41 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
SEC East:

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee

Missouri would be the 7th team, and we might be better than any team in that division right now.
Really? Are you serious? Mizzou better than South Carolina? :-)
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Bambi 03:42 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Really? Are you serious? Mizzou better than South Carolina? :-)
I saw 3 schools on that list before I got to SC. lol
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duncan_idaho 03:44 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
No worries here, Stewie has assured me the new Tier 1 deal will surpass the SEC's.
Yeah, that's one thing I don't get.

Will the Big 12's new tier 1 deal surpass what the SEC currently gets when it is renegotiated?

Yeah, it probably will.

But to assume that means it will be better than the new deal the SEC negotiates for those same rights, the next time the SEC does it, is just foolish.

The SEC has added almost 60 percent of its current footprint without hurting the brand at all in football. It has an out and will be able to re-negotiate its tier 1 deal soon, too.

If there's one thing to know about college sports, it's that Mike Slive is the big kid on the block. He wouldn't expand this freshly into a Tier 1 deal unless he was confident he could renegotiate.
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ChiefsCountry 03:44 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Really? Are you serious? Mizzou better than South Carolina? :-)
Considering they have no QB and their star player is done for the year. Its very possible to say Mizzou is better.
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eazyb81 03:46 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
By all means indulge in your analogy. God knows how incredibly interesting they are to read.
Must be, since you keep posting and responding to them.

I guess I can take your non-answer to my previous question as a sign you are bowing out of this conversation?

I have a strange feeling that you will be there to rub ku's feet and tell them it's all good when they end the Border War.
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Frazod 03:50 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Considering they have no QB and their star player is done for the year. Its very possible to say Mizzou is better.
Never mind - whenever Wickedson logs on Kansas IQs immediately drop by about 50 points. It's really quite amazing to watch. He's like the pied piper of butthurt idiocy.
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WilliamTheIrish 04:10 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Must be, since you keep posting and responding to them.

I guess I can take your non-answer to my previous question as a sign you are bowing out of this conversation?

I have a strange feeling that you will be there to rub ku's feet and tell them it's all good when they end the Border War.
Oh ****. You got me there easy. I responded to one of your Rip Van Winkle coma inducing posts with a non answer. How terrible. I'd have to refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. You could market your posts to a hospital as as a highly-effective alternative to Propathol.

Yea I'll be here to talk all KU fans off the roof when they don't play MU in the ... The game to teams play that nobody really cares about except those two teams game.
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Saul Good 04:13 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Really? Are you serious? Mizzou better than South Carolina? :-)
South Carolina just lost their QB and their Heisman-candidate RB for the season. They are done.
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Saul Good 04:16 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
Oh ****. You got me there easy. I responded to one of your Rip Van Winkle coma inducing posts with a non answer. How terrible. I'd have to refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. You could market your posts to a hospital as as a highly-effective alternative to Propathol.

Yea I'll be here to talk all KU fans off the roof when they don't play MU in the ... The game to teams play that nobody really cares about except those two teams game.
Care to remind me what the highest rated regular season game in college football history is?
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WilliamTheIrish 04:17 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Care to remind me what the highest rated regular season game in college football history is?
Can you do it with a pimp/ ho analogy?
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eazyb81 04:23 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
Oh ****. You got me there easy. I responded to one of your Rip Van Winkle coma inducing posts with a non answer. How terrible. I'd have to refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. You could market your posts to a hospital as as a highly-effective alternative to Propathol.

Yea I'll be here to talk all KU fans off the roof when they don't play MU in the ... The game to teams play that nobody really cares about except those two teams game.
Actually the entire exchange started with you giving UT a reach-around for ending the A&M series. I guess KSU fans feel it is their womanly duty to defend their conference overlords at every turn no matter how sad and transparent it gets.

UT is a hilarious little bitch for ending the A&M series simply because A&M moved on to a better home - the exact same f#cking thing UT tried to do until Bevo Network was determined to be a no go (weird, wonder why?).

But the only thing more hilarious is watching non UT fans scramble to defend them.
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kstater 04:24 PM 10-17-2011
Gary Pinkel has never beaten Texas? No wonder he wants to high tail it out.
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