Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Literally nothing he said is wrong, though. Wilson probably would be playing at least marginally better if he had a coaching staff worth half a shit. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be absolutely horrible given all the assets they've dumped into him.
Yep. If anything, it shows that they did everything to try to get Rodgers and Wilson was a last second backup plan. They can’t even change the offense for him, apparently. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
How long have you guys watched the NFL? Teams make huge turnarounds after poor starts all of the time. Just look at the Chiefs D last year, or the 2012 Broncos, who started the season 2-3 and then ripped off 10 straight wins.
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Literally nothing he said is wrong, though. Wilson probably would be playing at least marginally better if he had a coaching staff worth half a shit. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be absolutely horrible given all the assets they've dumped into him.
They're tied to Wilson and not Hackett... fans would have no problem with a coaching change at this point. Dropkick his arse out the door and bring in Sean Payton. Waltons have the cash to make that happen, go put your first stamp on the team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Literally nothing he said is wrong, though. Wilson probably would be playing at least marginally better if he had a coaching staff worth half a shit. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be absolutely horrible given all the assets they've dumped into him.
I think that's pretty baseless based on what we've seen.
We now have 2 examples of Russ not seeing a wide open receiver in the end zone.
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I get that you have to hope that somehow Wilson's ineptness is being caused by someone other than him and it's easy to lay the blame at the feet of the first year coach, but this is 90% on Wilson sucking shit. We saw how he and his fans tried to blame the HC and front office in Seattle.
You don't think this is the offense that Russel wanted to run? He acted like he was held back by Pete Carroll and how that offense was ran. You think he was ok with going to Denver and signing that contract if he didn't get a huge amount of input into the offense that was run? This is the offense that Russel thought best suited his skillset and we're seeing that he's just trash at running it.
Pete Carroll's insistence on a run-based offense was actually good for Russell. It opened up the play action passing game. At least the defenses respected Seattle's run game enough that these type of play action plays had a good chance of success. [Reply]
The only real option the new ownership group in Denver has now is firing Hackett and hiring Sean Payton. If that were a reality, they should do it now.
But, I know it's not a reality... so yeah. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Here’s another one. I never said any of those things.
You sure thought them. Came around more than you have in years, pounding your chest about WalRuss, even hinting he was better than Mahomes. Sounded like a little KnowMo disciple! :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
The only real option the new ownership group in Denver has now is firing Hackett and hiring Sean Payton. If that were a reality, they should do it now.
But, I know it's not a reality... so yeah.
Peyton wants to take a year off, but it's a good plan to do that ASAP. Might have to deal with Dallas wanting him also. And Jerry usually gets what he wants. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Pete Carroll's insistence on a run-based offense was actually good for Russell. It opened up the play action passing game. At least the defenses respected Seattle's run game enough that these type of play action plays had a good chance of success.
Exactly. Wishful thinkers kept repeating that Pete Carroll was holding him back. He just needs to get away from Pete and he'll be fixed!
Like I said plenty of times before the season, maybe Pete actually knew what he was doing. He's had a lot of success, both in college and the NFL. Let's not forget that when Pete, against his better judgment, "let Russ cook," it fell apart pretty quickly and he became a turnover machine. Then Carroll pulled the plug and righted the ship.
Teams don't just trade away legit franchise QBs in their prime. And the fact that they were considering replacements all the way back in 2017 or so says it all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Pete Carroll's insistence on a run-based offense was actually good for Russell. It opened up the play action passing game. At least the defenses respected Seattle's run game enough that these type of play action plays had a good chance of success.
Originally Posted by TEX:
Peyton wants to take a year off, but it's a good plan to do that ASAP. Might have to deal with Dallas wanting him also. And Jerry usually gets what he wants.
Well, no other at team at this point is likely to fire a coach... so be bold Waltons. Dump that brinks truck up to his house and bring in Sean Payton.
Payton made just under $10M annually with the Saints.
That's about what Kyle Shanahan makes now and is top 5, looks like only 3 coaches over the $11M bar - Carroll, Big Bill and McVay.
I don't care what the $ is, it doesn't count against the cap, go give Payton a 5 year $80M contract and let's party. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
The only real option the new ownership group in Denver has now is firing Hackett and hiring Sean Payton. If that were a reality, they should do it now.
But, I know it's not a reality... so yeah.
Payton ain't coming unless he gets highest paid coach money and that bargain shopper owner isn't doing that.
Not to mention Wilson looks like shit and he won't want any part that problem. [Reply]
