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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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WilliamTheIrish 12:14 PM 10-17-2011
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dule-full-2018


aTm.... :-) What can one say?

Want to get away from UT in such a big way, yet still want to keep the game vs UT?

Dodds says "Thanks but no thanks".
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Bambi 12:16 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dule-full-2018


aTm.... :-) What can one say?

Want to get away from UT in such a big way, yet still want to keep the game vs UT?

Dodds says "Thanks but no thanks".
A&M is on its way to becoming SMU.
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Saul Good 12:21 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by alnorth:
You could also use this little toy: http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/

You can screenshot and post whatever you come up with.
It comes so close to making perfect sense until you get to the last few teams.

I'm on a mobile, so I can't screenshot it, but I got this far:

Mizzou, aTm, WVU, and NC State to the SEC.

Texas, Tech, OU, oSu to the PAC

Rutgers and Notre Dame to the B1G

That puts 16 teams in the SEC and PAC, 14 in the B1G, and 13 in the ACC. That's where it gets tricky. I could see the ACC adding Cincy, Louisville, and UCONN to get to 16.

At that point, I sent Houston, Boise, BYU, USF, SMU to the Big XII with ISI, KU, KSU, Baylor, and TCU.

I just don't see how the B1G gets to 16. KU would be a decent choice for 15. That would leave them taking KSU, ISU, BYU, or a Texas school, and none of those are great fits. For that reason, I could see the B1G stopping at 14. I could also see the ACC stopping at 14 and sending Cincy and Louisville to the Big XII.

The 4 big conferences could all have conference championship games which would essentially be the first round of the playoffs. From there, you have a 4 team tourney.
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tredadda 12:25 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
It comes so close to making perfect sense until you get to the last few teams.

I'm on a mobile, so I can't screenshot it, but I got this far:

Mizzou, aTm, WVU, and NC State to the SEC.

Texas, Tech, OU, oSu to the PAC

Rutgers and Notre Dame to the B1G

That puts 16 teams in the SEC and PAC, 14 in the B1G, and 13 in the ACC. That's where it gets tricky. I could see the ACC adding Cincy, Louisville, and UCONN to get to 16.

At that point, I sent Houston, Boise, BYU, USF, SMU to the Big XII with ISI, KU, KSU, Baylor, and TCU.

I just don't see how the B1G gets to 16. KU would be a decent choice for 15. That would leave them taking KSU, ISU, BYU, or a Texas school, and none of those are great fits. For that reason, I could see the B1G stopping at 14. I could also see the ACC stopping at 14 and sending Cincy and Louisville to the Big XII.

The 4 big conferences could all have conference championship games which would essentially be the first round of the playoffs. From there, you have a 4 team tourney.
Not a bad plan.
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Saul Good 12:26 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
lol, Texas A&M looks so stupid.
In a scenario where the SEC adds nobody, the Big XII keeps MU, adds BYU and WVU, and kicks ISU out of the conference, aTm looks a little silly, I guess. Then again, a lot of things look silly when you are tripping balls, and that's the only way you can come up with that alignment.
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Mr. Plow 12:35 PM 10-17-2011
Has the homecoming announcement of MU leaving the Big 12 been made public yet?
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evenfall 12:35 PM 10-17-2011


:-)
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Pants 12:36 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Has the homecoming announcement of MU leaving the Big 12 been made public yet?
:-)
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eazyb81 12:43 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dule-full-2018


aTm.... :-) What can one say?

Want to get away from UT in such a big way, yet still want to keep the game vs UT?

Dodds says "Thanks but no thanks".
Hilarious how petty and vindictive Team Bevo is. UT's not used to any of its hoes stepping out of line.

It will be hilarious when UT comes back to the table in about three years after Jerry Jones offers each them a few mill to play annually at JerryWorld.
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Saul Good 12:52 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Has the homecoming announcement of MU leaving the Big 12 been made public yet?
Was that even a rumor? I've followed this as closely as anyone, and I didn't see anyone say that was likely. A few people hoped for it, myself included, but nobody predicted it. I'd like it if we left today, but I'm not predicting that, either.
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Pants 12:58 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Was that even a rumor? I've followed this as closely as anyone, and I didn't see anyone say that was likely. A few people hoped for it, myself included, but nobody predicted it. I'd like it if we left today, but I'm not predicting that, either.
Yeah, I think you expressed your hope for it right around the same time you claimed you don't like to support your team unless they're playing in a marquee match up.

:-)
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Bambi 01:02 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by evenfall:


:-)
I see what you did there.
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Bearcat 01:18 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
In a scenario where the SEC adds nobody, the Big XII keeps MU, adds BYU and WVU, and kicks ISU out of the conference, aTm looks a little silly, I guess. Then again, a lot of things look silly when you are tripping balls, and that's the only way you can come up with that alignment.

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KChiefs1 01:19 PM 10-17-2011
The envy & jealousy is palpable from the KU & KSU posters. You guys will land on your feet when Bevo decides to move to a prettier girl.
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Pants 01:24 PM 10-17-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
The envy & jealousy is palpable from the KU & KSU posters. You guys will land on your feet when Bevo decides to move to a prettier girl.
I think it's more MU fans just expecting envy to be there. What is there to be envious about at this point? As long as B12 is alive, KU and KSU fans are happy. Personally, I'd be a little envious if you guys got an invite from the B10, other than that... meh.

If we can replace you with L'ville/WVU, it'll just be icing on the cake. :-)
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