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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KcMizzou 06:11 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by PostRockPablo:
How'd that work out for you?
47-17 and KU covered the spread? Really?

That's hilarious.
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Pablo 06:13 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
47-17 and KU covered the spread? Really?

That's hilarious.
Line was at 35 last I checked.

O/U was like 72.
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Saul Good 06:15 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by PostRockPablo:
Line was at 35 last I checked.

O/U was like 72.
I got it at 33.5. Glad I didn't put more on it. I almost bet big. Wound up losing $50 because of that stupid fumble.
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mikeyis4dcats. 07:21 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
The reason it wasn't a Big XII broadcast is because we forfeit all of our TV money when we leave anyway, but we still hold our rights and they can't broadcast without our permission. I would bet a good pile of cash that we are threatening to hold back broadcast of more games if they don't settle with us for an agreeable amount.
uh, no.
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mikeyis4dcats. 07:34 PM 10-16-2011
BYU still an option
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...oing.html?pg=1
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ArrowheadHawk 07:44 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
BYU still an option
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...oing.html?pg=1
Sign em up.
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baitism 07:48 PM 10-16-2011
That would be too many religious nutters.
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Saul Good 07:56 PM 10-16-2011
Why are we looking to add another team when we've got an even number? Who would be the 12th team?
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ArrowheadHawk 07:58 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Why are we looking to add another team when we've got an even number? Who would be the 12th team?
I think the invite would be contingent on MU leaving.
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Saul Good 07:58 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk:
I think the invite would be contingent on MU leaving.
MU is leaving?
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ArrowheadHawk 08:00 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
MU is leaving?
They haven't confirmed they are staying yet.
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notorious 08:11 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
MU is leaving?
They are about to jettison a pile of waste known as the Big 12, or so I've heard.
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BWillie 08:16 PM 10-16-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Why are we looking to add another team when we've got an even number? Who would be the 12th team?
why do ppl care if there is an even number? The Big 10 had 11 teams for a long time, and they did just fine.

If you read between the lines in that article, it seems to suggest if and once Missouri goes to SEC, BYU will be invited. At least that is what I get out of it. I think the Big 12 doesn't want to add an 11th team because it will mean they have to share revenue 11-ways, and teams will get less. They need that 10th team to secure their current contract w/ Fox or whatever. That sucks for the Big 12 because even if the teams got less money, it would be in their long term interest to invite Louisville, WVU, and maybe UCF for stability.
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alnorth 08:21 PM 10-16-2011
Either way, we are probably headed to 12 regardless. We are waiting on MU now, but there are too many people in the Big 12 who want to go to 12, that it looks like even Texas has seen the writing on the wall with their comment that they "are open" to expanding to 12.
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BWillie 08:24 PM 10-16-2011
How come nobody is interested in getting UCF or/and USF to join the Big 12? Those are huge schools in terms of enrollment, and you bring the Big 12 to Florida and the Eastern Market. I would think it is a no brainer. It's not that long of a flight from Texas and they could split Texas and OU into different divisions.
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