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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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lewdog 05:47 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I cropped it bit I believe it was a daily year chart. Are they getting killed that bad in the after market? Yeah they are down almost $6. Still good and probably good buying opportunity. I admit I am not up on what their news cycle is but it looks like they released earnings today so you did good selling or buying puts.

I hate earnings announcements especially before or after the close. It's rigged bullshit.

Looks like they came in about .06 under estimates.
BRB

Buying back in tomorrow on dip.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 06:19 PM 05-28-2020
Thought I'd share my productive day today.

So I bought a property 5 years ago for $118,000. Bank financed 80%. seller financed 20%.

I rented the property out on a Lease/option 5 year contract. This means at the end of 5 years the tenant has the option to buy the property on the agreed price which was $148,000.

During this 5 years the tenant is responsible for all maintenance and repairs so basically all I had to do was acquire the property ,clean it up and rent it out. I spent less than $1000 initially on a few things to get it ready.

Over the contract I gave the tenant $300/month credit toward the purchase price. They executed the contract a few months early so the credit ended up being $16,800. They had not so good credit initially but used the 5 years to get it cleaned up. Around 700 score now.

So for some stupid reason the bank demanded a 20% down payment from them which was bullshit and left them short.

Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I financed $12,300 of their down payment as a second mortgage at 7% interest over 5 years with an annual payment of $3121 due every May 28th. I got a check for $43,000 and some change and never put a dime into the property other than the initial cleanup. Less than $1k.

Real Estate has always been good to me. I really need to just pull my money from any stocks and just put it all there.

I have a property I bought 12 years ago for $40K as a bank repo also. I did the 5 year with another family for the price of $84k. They remodeled the house, installed new CH&A ,roof , got divorced and left the property.

I went in and replaced the windows, garage doors and painted .Did a new 2 year contract due to execute for 120K next May . That property is already paid off so capital gains are my only worry then.

Fuck stocks!
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jdubya 06:40 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Thought I'd share my productive day today.

So I bought a property 5 years ago for $118,000. Bank financed 80%. seller financed 20%.

I rented the property out on a Lease/option 5 year contract. This means at the end of 5 years the tenant has the option to buy the property on the agreed price which was $148,000.

During this 5 years the tenant is responsible for all maintenance and repairs so basically all I had to do was acquire the property ,clean it up and rent it out.
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Ive always been intrigued by this strategy but havent the balls yet to pull the trigger on this type of deal. Seems like a win win scenario though. I do have a good deal of money in real estate but it is a bit hands off very similar to a REIT type of deal with RK Properties and have done very well. I have always wanted to go next level and do what you have done though. Congrats to your success.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 09:25 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Ive always been intrigued by this strategy but havent the balls yet to pull the trigger on this type of deal. Seems like a win win scenario though. I do have a good deal of money in real estate but it is a bit hands off very similar to a REIT type of deal with RK Properties and have done very well. I have always wanted to go next level and do what you have done though. Congrats to your success.
The tenant was thrilled to close on the property. It actually appraised for $169K so he has a ton of immediate equity. It's a win win and everybody walked away happy.
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Halfcan 09:41 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Thought I'd share my productive day today.

So I bought a property 5 years ago for $118,000. Bank financed 80%. seller financed 20%.

I rented the property out on a Lease/option 5 year contract. This means at the end of 5 years the tenant has the option to buy the property on the agreed price which was $148,000.

During this 5 years the tenant is responsible for all maintenance and repairs so basically all I had to do was acquire the property ,clean it up and rent it out. I spent less than $1000 initially on a few things to get it ready.

Over the contract I gave the tenant $300/month credit toward the purchase price. They executed the contract a few months early so the credit ended up being $16,800. They had not so good credit initially but used the 5 years to get it cleaned up. Around 700 score now.

So for some stupid reason the bank demanded a 20% down payment from them which was bullshit and left them short.

Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I financed $12,300 of their down payment as a second mortgage at 7% interest over 5 years with an annual payment of $3121 due every May 28th. I got a check for $43,000 and some change and never put a dime into the property other than the initial cleanup. Less than $1k.

Real Estate has always been good to me. I really need to just pull my money from any stocks and just put it all there.

I have a property I bought 12 years ago for $40K as a bank repo also. I did the 5 year with another family for the price of $84k. They remodeled the house, installed new CH&A ,roof , got divorced and left the property.

I went in and replaced the windows, garage doors and painted .Did a new 2 year contract due to execute for 120K next May . That property is already paid off so capital gains are my only worry then.

**** stocks!
You are Chiefs Planet's version of Carlton Sheets! :-)
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Munson 09:45 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Thought I'd share my productive day today.

So I bought a property 5 years ago for $118,000. Bank financed 80%. seller financed 20%.

I rented the property out on a Lease/option 5 year contract. This means at the end of 5 years the tenant has the option to buy the property on the agreed price which was $148,000.

During this 5 years the tenant is responsible for all maintenance and repairs so basically all I had to do was acquire the property ,clean it up and rent it out. I spent less than $1000 initially on a few things to get it ready.

Over the contract I gave the tenant $300/month credit toward the purchase price. They executed the contract a few months early so the credit ended up being $16,800. They had not so good credit initially but used the 5 years to get it cleaned up. Around 700 score now.

So for some stupid reason the bank demanded a 20% down payment from them which was bullshit and left them short.

Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I financed $12,300 of their down payment as a second mortgage at 7% interest over 5 years with an annual payment of $3121 due every May 28th. I got a check for $43,000 and some change and never put a dime into the property other than the initial cleanup. Less than $1k.

Real Estate has always been good to me. I really need to just pull my money from any stocks and just put it all there.

I have a property I bought 12 years ago for $40K as a bank repo also. I did the 5 year with another family for the price of $84k. They remodeled the house, installed new CH&A ,roof , got divorced and left the property.

I went in and replaced the windows, garage doors and painted .Did a new 2 year contract due to execute for 120K next May . That property is already paid off so capital gains are my only worry then.

Fuck stocks!
Damn, I need to get into real estate.
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Buehler445 09:59 PM 05-28-2020
Man Hog you know different people than I do.

When we sold our last house a couple wanted me to finance it. They’d just take over payments. I told them it didn’t really work that way. Insurance was dependent on me (as insured) using it as a primary residence My mortgage was dependent on it being my primary residence and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff that I would be risking for no gain other than being out from under it.

I did some rough math and it would have been a decent percentage higher payments if I had to finance it.

If i owned it outright it would work great. But where I owed money and needed the cash flow, I was taking a healthy risk.

Real Estate takes real capital man.

But once you have it you can use it to make more money. Just like farmland the toughest one to pay for is the first one.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 10:08 PM 05-28-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Man Hog you know different people than I do.

When we sold our last house a couple wanted me to finance it. They’d just take over payments. I told them it didn’t really work that way. Insurance was dependent on me (as insured) using it as a primary residence My mortgage was dependent on it being my primary residence and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff that I would be risking for no gain other than being out from under it.

I did some rough math and it would have been a decent percentage higher payments if I had to finance it.

If i owned it outright it would work great. But where I owed money and needed the cash flow, I was taking a healthy risk.

Real Estate takes real capital man.

But once you have it you can use it to make more money. Just like farmland the toughest one to pay for is the first one.
Real estate doesn't take capital. It takes leverage. Borrowing money has never scared me as long as I knew a way to pay it off..
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Hammock Parties 05:40 AM 05-29-2020
Might be time to buy in on GNUS when it dips again today. What say you?
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neech 07:30 AM 05-29-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Might be time to buy in on GNUS when it dips again today. What say you?
It looks intriguing, I can see this one going up.
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Demonpenz 07:31 AM 05-29-2020
Working low on a hog lets you live high on the hog
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Hammock Parties 12:43 PM 05-29-2020
Might be your last chance to get in on VTIQ at sub-30 prices this afternoon.

Merger is on Tuesday and then who knows where it goes. Lots of people think it could be the next TESLA.
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Hammock Parties 01:20 PM 05-29-2020
IBIO CFO just dumped a bunch of shares.


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Rain Man 01:29 PM 05-29-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
IBIO CFO just dumped a bunch of shares.


You should let him know that it's going to go up a lot. I'd hate to see him mess up and sell too early.
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jdubya 02:20 PM 05-29-2020
been grabbing up some OXY....still holding onto IBIO for kicks
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