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Two young children are dead and their mother suffered major injuries after two family dogs attacked a baby and toddler outside their West Tennessee home.Kirstie Bennard, 30, suffered critical injuries when she tried to intervene in the attack on her 5-month-old boy, Hollace Dean, and 2-year-old girl, Lilly Jane, family and police said.
"She put her body on top of Lilly’s to try and protect her after the attack started," Bennard's uncle by marriage, Jeff Gibson told USA TODAY on Saturday. "Both (dogs) started attacking her while she lay on Lilly."The two children were pronounced dead when officials arrived at the home, the sheriff's office reported.
It was not immediately known what provoked the mauling.The mauling, Gibson said, lasted about 10 minutes.The dogs – two pit bulls that belonged to the family – were euthanized at Memphis Animal Services Thursday.
The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.
"I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," Canfield told the outlet. "Those children were everything to them, and they just have a really long journey ahead."
How do you feel about PittBull's? I posted this because my wife shared this story with me and my son was just recently participating in a "read to sheltered dogs" event where you could adopt a dog (I know brilliant).
I've heard the arguments that PittBull's get a bad wrap, but it seems time and time again they are the focal point of dogs who do these horrible acts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Why not ride a fucking horse to work and listen to 8-track tapes? Revolvers suck.
The Sig I carry holds 13 rounds. A revolver generally holds six, and smaller ones (like a typical snubnose .38) hold five. They also generally have really heavy double action trigger pulls - you have to cock the hammer to get a light pull. And a lot of revolvers specifically don't have external hammers any more.
The new revolvers can hold 8. Plus a good revolver goes bang every time you pull the trigger. Don't have to worry about that gun jamming on you.
There is nothing wrong with having a revolver in your arsenal. Perfect for a truck gun, back up gun, or just some one who has issues racking the slide. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nirvana58:
The new revolvers can hold 8. Plus a good revolver goes bang every time you pull the trigger. Don't have to worry about that gun jamming on you.
There is nothing wrong with having a revolver in your arsenal. Perfect for a truck gun, back up gun, or just some one who has issues racking the slide.
Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.
I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I just feel like a revolver is a hell of a lot easier to carry and pull quickly if you're walking your damn dog. :-)
When dad was robbed at gunpoint in his own driveway 10 years ago he started carrying a small revolver to work every day.
FYI my dad is john wayne.
It all depends on what you are comfortable with. A 357 revolver will put down any dog or person that you might encounter. I carry one when I am in bear country. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I just feel like a revolver is a hell of a lot easier to carry and pull quickly if you're walking your damn dog. :-)
When dad was robbed at gunpoint in his own driveway 10 years ago he started carrying a small revolver to work every day.
FYI my dad is john wayne.
Bullshit. A proper holster and training are the key, not the type of weapon. You can draw and fire a pistol just as fast, and don't have to worry about cocking it before you fire.
I can draw from concealment and fire an aimed shot in 1.3 seconds. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.
I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century.
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bwana:
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.
I'm not too worried about grizzlies in Illinois, but you definitely have a valid point. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.
I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century.
I guess I am a little old school. My conceal carry gun is a 1911. Personally I don't believe I am going to need more than 8 shots to neutralize most situations.
If I need more than that I probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bwana:
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.
:-). Yeah the 9 is just going to piss the bear off. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nirvana58:
I guess I am a little old school. My conceal carry gun is a 1911. Personally I don't believe I am going to need more than 8 shots to neutralize most situations.
If I need more than that I probably shouldn't have been there in the first place.
The problem with that is defensive situations tend not to announce themselves. Carrying a gun with an external safety can be a serious problem unless you've practiced your draw enough so that disengaging the safety has become muscle memory.
You don't want your last thought in life to be "oh fuck, the safety's on." [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nirvana58: :-). Yeah the 9 is just going to piss the bear off.
You would have to be beyond lucky to drop a grizzly with a 9. I guess if you could get a round in the eye, it would work, good luck. :-)
There is a place I used to fish that had bear tunnels running through the thick brush, along with a bunch of moose. I had a fly rod in one hand my 45/70 guide rifle in the other, loaded with Garrett 570gr hard cast rounds. You had the noise of the creek, combined with very limited visibility.
Bottom line, if a bear was by the creek, there is a good chance you would run into it at very close range.
I got to the point where I said the hell with this, there are plenty of other good fishing spots in the area with better visibility. I do everything I can to try to avoid having to drop a grizzy, because if I do, I will have a Game Warden crawling up my ass with a microscope, because of their "endangered" status.
They haven't been endangered for 20 years, and are in fact, grossly over populated. Every time Montana tries to delist them, tree hugger's get worked up, take it to court and some panty waste judge in San Francisco sides with the hugger's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
The problem with that is defensive situations tend not to announce themselves. Carrying a gun with an external safety can be a serious problem unless you've practiced your draw enough so that disengaging the safety has become muscle memory.
You don't want your last thought in life to be "oh fuck, the safety's on."
This is very true. However, being aware of your surroundings and removing yourself from sketchy situations. Will save your life way more than any amount of bullets/style of gun. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Dear Dumb shit,
with all due respect, a .22 round could literally richocet off a pit bull's skull and either round off the top between the bone and skin...or deflect directly back at you.
With a .22, you could mortally wound yourself and do nothing to the dog but seriously piss it off.
.22s are for killing rabbits and birds.
9mm are for thugs
.45s, .44s, and .40 cals are for alpha males...
You should get a .32 or .38...
You completely skipped the .25ACP
9mm is the least expensive round available outside of .22lr.
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9mm with Hornady Critical Duty ammo and you will be peachy keen. [Reply]