Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 33

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)
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Okay, after a day of thought, here's my draft:

1st round (#18) - CB Marcus Peters

I was really tempted to go with Shane Ray here, but I found a non-drug-addicted substitute for Ray further down. The only other consideration here was C Cameron Erving, but since I needed both CB and C, I went with the higher-skill position.

2nd round (#49) - OLB Nate Orchard

I like anyone who puts up 18 sacks his senior year, and I could use an OLB upgrade. This was a little bit of a luxury pick, but not much. I also considered Mitch Morse (desperate at C), T Jake Fisher, and OLB Randy Gregory, and to a lesser extent C Hroniss Grasu and DE Owamagbe Odhigizuwa. But Orchard was my guy.

3rd round (#80). CB Steve Nelson.

First off, I declined the move-up offer to #76, so I keep my #193 pick and pick at #80.

This was a really, really hard pick. Nelson was a bit of a luxury since I'd already drafted Peters, but I like the pick and was really thin at CB. However, I looked really hard at TE Tyler Kroft, OT Chaz Green, DT Carl Davis, G Daryl Williams, and a little bit at ILB Paul Dawson. This was a really hard pick.

3rd round (#98) - OT TJ Clemmings

Pretty easy pick here. Really didn't consider anybody else, because I'm desperate at OT. I've invested a lot of picks there and didn't want to give up another high pick, so Clemmings is my desperate gamble there this year.

4th round (#118 - Traded) - Okay, I'm using my trade down here. The #118 pick is worth 58 points, and at a 35% discount that comes to 37.7 points. I'm trading down with the Vikings for their #146 pick (33 points), their #228 pick (2 points), and their #232 pick (2 points). The 2 point figures are because the draft chart only goes to #224, so I just used the value of the #224 pick.

(Traded - #146 pick) - QB Brett Hundley

My philosophy is to keep taking QBs every year, and Hundley seemed like the best value. It was hard because I'm desperate for a C and strongly considered C Shaq Mason, and I also wanted DE Marcus Hardison. But getting Hundley also let me trade down.

5th round (#154) - I am accepting the trade for G Ben Grubbs.

5th round (#172) - FS Derron Smith.

I need help at FS and keep trying to get it in the lower picks. Let's try again. I strongly considered OT Tyrus Thompson here, as well as CB Charles Gaines and our own TE James O'Shaugnessy.

5th round (#173) - DT Michael Bennett

Seemed like a great value pick here. I can use him at my 3-4 DE position. Really no other options here, because I was targeting him.

6th round (#193) - C Andy Gallik

I really need a starting center, but had too many other holes to fill. So Andy, you're going to be starting for me this year. Let's hope you play well. No other choices here because I'd targeted him as a value pick.

6th round (#217) - TE Ben Koyack

I need a backup TE and he seemed like a good value. Lots of options here, but I had lots of 7th round picks, so keep reading. I also considered TE Gerald Christian.

7th round (#228, acquired in trade down) - FS Gerod Holliman.

I need a starting FS desperately, but had too many other holes. Hopefully Gerod or Derron can hold it down or one of the strong safeties on my roster can move back

7th round (#232, acquired in trade down) - OT Corey Robinson

A long shot, but I liked him and my OT position is a mess right now. He'll have a chance to compete.

7th round (#233) - CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu.

I figure I can stash him on my roster and hope his knee heels.

I probably should use one of these picks on La'el Collins, but I didn't. You know, just in case. I liked a lot of the late prospects.
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My current post-draft roster is below. I'll pick up some more guys as the Chiefs sign training camp guys and veteran free agents.

Rookies are shown in green.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Geno Smith (Jets)
Brett Hundley (#4/146 - Packers)
Terrelle Pryor
Tyler Bray

HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Denard Robinson (Jaguars)

FB/H-Back
Trey Millard, FB (49ers).

WR
Jeremy Maclin
Dwayne Bowe
Kendall Wright (Titans)
Donte Moncrief (Colts).
Albert Wilson
Donnie Avery
Frankie Hammond
Corbin Louks
Da'rick Rogers
Fred Williams
Jason Avant

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Anthony Fasano
Ben Koyack (#6/217 - Jaguars)
Adam Schilz

OT
Menelik Watson (Raiders)
Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins)
TJ Clemmings (#3/98 - Vikings)
Corey Robinson (#7/232 - Lions)
Ryan Harris, RT
Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills)
Derek Sherrod
Curtis Feigt

G
Alex Boone (49ers)
Ben Grubbs (Acquired via trade for the #5/154 pick)
David Yankey (Vikings)
Paul Fanaika
Mike McGlynn
Jarron Pughsley

C
Andy Gallik (#6/193 - Titans)

K
Cairo Santos, K

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
James Winchester
Jorgen Hus

FS
Derron Smith (#5/172 - Bengals)
Gerod Holliman (#7/228 - Steelers)
Jordan Poyer (Eagles)
Kelcie McCray
Ed Reynolds (Eagles)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Tyvon Branch
Baccari Rambo (Redskins)

CB
Sean Smith
Marcus Peters (#1/18 - Chiefs)
Alphonso Dennard (Patriots)
Steve Nelson (#3/80 - Chiefs)
Jamell Fleming
Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (#7/233 - Browns)
Chris Owens
Shaquille Richardson
Aaron Hester
Deji Olatoye

OLB
Tamba Hali
Nate Orchard (#2/49 - Browns)
AJ Klein (Panthers)
Josh Martin
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers)
Trevor Reilly (Jets)
Ronald Powell (Saints)
Jojo Dickson

ILB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Derrick Johnson
Josh Mauga
Zach Brown (Titans)

DE
Star Lotulelei (Panthers)
Mike DeVito
Ropati Pitoitua
Michael Bennett (#5/173 - Jaguars)
Vance Walker
Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons)

NT
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Alex Carrington (Bills)
Daniel McCullers (Steelers)
Jerel Worthy
Vaughn Martin
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