Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.
Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.
Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.
The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.
Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.
If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.
There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.
Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.
Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.
Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).
If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.
Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."
Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.
Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.
There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.
Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.
It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.
I never said ku was terrible against Mizzou in head-to-head football.
No, you said KU was terrible against MU in head-to-head in every sport except basketball. Every sport includes football, which, -SURPRISE!- is the premier sport. So -SURPRISE!- you were wrong again.
If MU is the bestest ever in the money-losing sports, more power to you, I guess. I'm too lazy to go look the records of that up to even see if that's the case. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pants:
No, you said KU was terrible against MU in head-to-head in every sport except basketball. Every sport includes football, which, -SURPRISE!- is the premier sport. So -SURPRISE!- you were wrong again.
If MU is the bestest ever in the money-losing sports, more power to you, I guess. I'm too lazy to go look the records of that up to even see if that's the case.
Hello? ku IS generally terrible against Mizzou in head-to-head competition. How the f#ck can you argue Border Showdown results, which are - SURPRISE - an award given to the team the performs that best in head-to-head competition for that year? Mizzou has won five straight years. That is not insignificant.
Good call on saying you are too lazy to look up the results. It is a nice cover for you to act like you don't care, even though you've continued this conversation all morning. You clearly just don't care at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Hello? ku IS generally terrible against Mizzou in head-to-head competition. How the f#ck can you argue Border Showdown results, which are - SURPRISE - an award given to the team the performs that best in head-to-head competition for that year? Mizzou has won five straight years. That is not insignificant.
Good call on saying you are too lazy to look up the results. It is a nice cover for you to act like you don't care, even though you've continued this conversation all morning. You clearly just don't care at all.
Of course I care. I just don't care about women's softball and volleyball.
Oh, and I didn't realize that Border Showdown was an all-encompassing award. My apologies. I thought you were talking about the football game. You weren't wrong then about the 7-2 record. Not sure why you didn't address that earlier. That's a :-) on my part. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
You get to celebrate a conference championship in men's basketball almost every year, that is true. However, for all but maybe 3-5 schools in the entire country, basketball takes a huge backseat to football, and having a consistently competitive football team is more preferable than top 10 basketball and bottom 10 football. That's just reality.
I guess us 3-5 schools will just have to cheer for conference championships, tourney championships in a secondary sport while you are cheering for...........what exactly? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I guess us 3-5 schools will just have to cheer for conference championships, tourney championships in a secondary sport while you are cheering for...........what exactly?
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
If I could trade Mizzou's football and basketball programs for KU's, I wouldn't even consider it.
If I could trade KU's football and basketball programs for MU's, I wouldn't even consider it. KU is a coaching hire away from being able to compete (see Mangino), but nothing can every replace the rich, championship tradition of basketball at Kansas. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I guess us 3-5 schools will just have to cheer for conference championships, tourney championships in a secondary sport while you are cheering for...........what exactly?
Being competitive in the premier sport. Isn't that obvious?
Football is king. Everything else is a secondary sport. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I guess if just being competitive is enough for you, more power to you.
Yeah, it is a hard sport that every school pours the majority of their resources in. It is fun to have exciting games, winning seasons, and play in bowl games, instead of being a national punchline for the sport.
Our record will likely be impacted early on by a move to the SEC, but the move will generate even greater excitement, attendance, and financial resources. Why? Because more games against premier opponents, in the premier conference, for the premier sport. [Reply]
I understand why a KU fan wouldn't want to trade programs, but I believe that the Big XII is doomed to fail. If it does, a strong football program is more likely to land a seat on a life boat than an elite basketball program. In my mind, priority #1 is to not get left on the outside looking in. Right now, there is no priority #2. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Mizzou BB has finished in the top 25 twice in the past 10 years, and Mizzou FB has finished in the top 25 three times in 10 years.... and those years include some of the best finishes in both sports. I wouldn't call that 'generally'.
:-) But, but they are really good and stuff. I like the color of their uniforms! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I understand why a KU fan wouldn't want to trade programs, but I believe that the Big XII is doomed to fail. If it does, a strong football program is more likely to land a seat on a life boat than an elite basketball program. In my mind, priority #1 is to not get left on the outside looking in. Right now, there is no priority #2.
Yeah, this is why I hope our next hire is better than Turner Gill. [Reply]
