I think absolute worst case scenario is that they sign Humphries and draft a guy like Benton on day 2. That's the smallest investment I can possibly see, and that wouldn't be bad. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
If you can have a full offseason of Humphries and he's healthy....yeah that may end up being about your best option realistically.
He's a fine LT. Honestly, he was always pretty solid. He's not gonna be an all pro but if he can be a good LT for a decent amount of money, that's a potential value signing.
Honestly think it's the most realistic and potentially even the best outcome. Assuming we can't get Stanley, I'm not convinced a multi-year deal for Cam Robinson (a worse LT version of Taylor) or Alaric Jackson are great moves.
Obviously who knows which are retained, but next year's FA could have Kolton Miller, Slater, Raimann, Rasheed Walker. Some will be available, all will be better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I think absolute worst case scenario is that they sign Humphries and draft a guy like Benton on day 2. That's the smallest investment I can possibly see, and that wouldn't be bad.
If you do the Humphries thing, I'd not draft one this year. You've got Wanya who can do it if need be.
It would open up the draft a bit and allow them to really hit the DL or offensive weapons. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Honestly think it's the most realistic and potentially even the best outcome. Assuming we can't get Stanley, I'm not convinced a multi-year deal for Cam Robinson (a worse LT version of Taylor) or Alaric Jackson are great moves.
Obviously who knows which are retained, but next year's FA could have Kolton Miller, Slater, Raimann, Rasheed Walker. Some will be available, all will be better.
They'd never trade him to us, but I'd love to somehow end up with Slater. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Only way I see that happening is if they haven't given up on Kingsley at LT. They're going to want a vet AND the young talent.
You've drafted a couple the last few years though. I wouldn't hate it, but we just need to be more open to BPA and just keep stocking high end talent. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
You've drafted a couple the last few years though. I wouldn't hate it, but we just need to be more open to BPA and just keep stocking high end talent.
Sure, but they have 3 day 2 picks. They can afford to take a guy like Benton with one if the value lines up. Doesn't meant they have to reach for one. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Trading for Jake Matthews or signing Alaric Jackson are the only two options.
Humphries is a broke dick who couldn’t beat out a guard at LT.
And the Chiefs can’t risk entering the season with another unknown rookie developmental project.
Going into next year Humphries is the best LT option we start off with. No, he wasn't ready immediately after returning from a season long injury to start week 17. Shocker. Of course he wasn't.
He is a player who's good enough to be solid and when all your cards play right perhaps even a pro bowl player. He's exactly what you'd like to have in place when drafting a young guy. With a complete off season of TC and preseason football he'll be in shape and can at least get by until the young guy is ready or to play in a pinch as a b/u. I really hope we keep him on so this this abortion of a season with no answer at all at LT doesn't happen again. [Reply]
I’m good with Humphries as long as that comes with a high pick that can also play elsewhere on the line.
Jackson is my first choice if he becomes available. I still don’t see why the Rams didn’t lock him up in-season unless he just refused. He’s made less than $7 million in his career, so I’d be surprised if he bet on himself to that extent.
If I’m his agent, I know I can run this salary up by getting to free agency. I’d be very patient at this point. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Going into next year Humphries is the best LT option we start off with. No, he wasn't ready immediately after returning from a season long injury to start week 17. Shocker. Of course he wasn't.
He is a player who's good enough to be solid and when all your cards play right perhaps even a pro bowl player. He's exactly what you'd like to have in place when drafting a young guy. With a complete off season of TC and preseason football he'll be in shape and can at least get by until the young guy is ready or to play in a pinch as a b/u. I really hope we keep him on so this this abortion of a season with no answer at all at LT doesn't happen again.
A 30+ year old LT with an extensive injury history who hasn’t been able to play a full season in four years.
That is an unserious attempt to finally secure Mahomes’ blind side. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
A 30+ year old LT with an extensive injury history who hasn’t been able to play a full season in four years.
That is an unserious attempt to finally secure Mahomes’ blind side.
Do you not read the whole post or do you just ignore the parts you don't like?
He's the perfect guy to have on roster WHEN YOU ADD A YOUNG LT. Or to play in a pinch should he have to. Nowhere in that statement did I suggest a 17 game starter. In fact it was very clear I meant the exact opposite.
He would be the first building block retained so there isn't absolute suck at the position. He's the b/u or average starter you begin the roster building with. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Do you not read the whole post or do you just ignore the parts you don't like?
He's the perfect guy to have on roster WHEN YOU ADD A YOUNG LT. Or to play in a pinch should he have to. Nowhere in that statement did I suggest a 17 game starter. In fact it was very clear I meant the exact opposite.
He would be the first building block retained so there isn't absolute suck at the position. He's the b/u or average starter you begin the roster building with.
Similar to adding Hopkins to the WR room, I do see benefit in adding a true pro left tackle to the OL room too.
Unless we land an ascending player for the long term at LT (besides Jackson, it’d have to be a trade I’m sure), then a vet plus a rookie is the way to go. You need someone to set the example for the young guy. [Reply]
For once, a message board is too conservative with its roster shifting. The last time we were in this position, Veach brought in FOUR new lineman - Orlando Brown, Jr in trade, Thuney in free agency, and Smith and Humphrey in the draft.
We are set at LG and C, but the other 3 positions are all subject to major changes. Given the avenues at our disposal, I'd expect Veach to look across all three avenues (trade, draft, free agency) and sort out the best options. What I I think is extremely unlikely is modest moves like bringing back DJ Humphries and drafting a 3rd round guard. That doesn't comport with how Veach has attacked these problems in the past.
My guess is that Veach will try to remedy his mistake from last year of not getting a 1st round LT. The team often talks about having a perpetual championship window which means not going all-in for any one season, which is likely why we didn't move way up last year. That being said, it's now clear that our team can't afford to not fix the LT problem (amongst other OL problems). Fix it now and it keeps the championship window open for years to come.
If I were to guess, these are the moves I think we'll make:
Our 1st rounder is traded either for a mid-first rounder or an OT on the move (a la Orlando Brown, Jr).
Our 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder is used on a RG
Options are explored to replace Jawaan Taylor and his big contract with either Kingsley or Wayna.