Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Definitely would explain such a sudden and drastic decline. Natural hormone production ceases when you take exogenous hormones. When he stopped, his growth hormone levels would have bottomed out and been lower than before he started.
My guess is he took HGH, initially, see if it would repair his neck to point of being able to play again...then realized how awesome his new super powers were. He came back better than ever... NFL wasnt actively testing for it...so why not. Going from what appeared to be a career ending injury to suddenly being able to throw for 55 TDs had to be alluring. It probably netted him over a $150 million in additional cash with the Papa johns endorsements.
Without HGH, he became what he would have always been when the Colts moved on...no doubt in my mind Horseface knew. It's why the scumbag preemptively tried to reduce his salary once he knew the NFL was starting to test for it. He knew the drop off was coming..
That entire stretch of Donk football was illegitimate...NFL tried to cover it up.
Thing is...if the whistleblower hadn't come forward...none of us would have even known he was doping the entire time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Then, despite the fact that Seattle acquiesced to all his demands, he still whined his way out of town. His agent furiously pushed for a trade, while Wilson publicly denied asking for one.
They gave him what he wanted...then had his worst season with the new OC.
Sounds like he has some karma heading his way...being forced to play on the Donks is a good start.
I'm sure the Seahawks FO were more than happy to get the haul they did...they weren't going to pay him.
All this makes sense. Carroll shipped his ass out of Seattle like there was no tomorrow. Management there seems to have gotten tired of his act.
I said it when the trade happened, Seattle knew what they were doing. You don't just trade away your franchise QB as if it was nothing. That never happens in the NFL aside from the Deshaun Watson case. They knew Mr.Unlimited was on the downslope of his career and his weird narcissistic personality was affecting the team. And having a celebrity tranny wife around the stadium on gameday surely didn't help the problem. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chieftain:
All this makes sense. Carroll shipped his ass out of Seattle like there was no tomorrow. Management there seems to have gotten tired of his act.
I said it when the trade happened, Seattle knew what they were doing. You don't just trade away your franchise QB as if it was nothing. That never happens in the NFL aside from the Deshaun Watson case. They knew Mr.Unlimited was on the downslope of his career and his weird narcissistic personality was affecting the team. And having a celebrity tranny wife around the stadium on gameday surely didn't help the problem.
Haha.....I genuinely think she (he?) is a tranny. It's no surprise that she likes to hang out with "Michael" Obama. [Reply]
Really shows how good of a defensive coach Vic Fangio was to make these guys look good
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
Denver's starting defense is absolutely loaded. They have good depth at OLB, NT, and safety. If they can stay healthy at corner, DE, and ILB they'll be a top 3 defense in the NFL. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
Denver's starting defense is absolutely loaded. They have good depth at OLB, NT, and safety. If they can stay healthy at corner, DE, and ILB they'll be a top 3 defense in the NFL.
FFS dude, it's not even noon. Put the crack pipe down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
Denver's starting defense is absolutely loaded. They have good depth at OLB, NT, and safety. If they can stay healthy at corner, DE, and ILB they'll be a top 3 defense in the NFL.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
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You were playing a last place schedule during the majority of his tenure...
4 of your 7 wins, last year, were against teams picking top 5. That will pad your defensive stats...
But you're Knowshow.....playing the Jets is the same as playing the Bills.
For reference...Donks allowed 9 PPG against those bottom feeders. Against the AFCW...they allowed 25 PPG. Replace the Lions, Jets and Jaguars with the Titans, Bills and Packers and lets see where they rank.
Shutting out the Jets in Wilsons 3rd ever game... looks the same as shutting out the Bills when they compile stats. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
Denver's starting defense is absolutely loaded. They have good depth at OLB, NT, and safety. If they can stay healthy at corner, DE, and ILB they'll be a top 3 defense in the NFL.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Fangio is a fantastic defensive coach. Every year it seemed like our defense was depleted by injuries - maybe because of how hard his training camps were, but who knows - and every year we would be one of the better defenses in the league. In the three years he was in Denver, Von and Chubb only played 5 games together.
Denver's starting defense is absolutely loaded. They have good depth at OLB, NT, and safety. If they can stay healthy at corner, DE, and ILB they'll be a top 3 defense in the NFL.
No they won’t. You lost about 30% of your sack production in Von Miller and Shelby Harris. They had 10.5 of your average 36 sacks last year.
You also played offenses that took their foot off the pedal bc they knew your offense was terrible and couldn’t get in the end zone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Broncos corners outside of Surtain are:
Darby-always injured. Played a full season 1 time in 7 year career
K’Vaun Williams-31 years old. Slot specialist
Ojemudia-looks like a bust. No INT’s in 2 years and very meh
Mathis-rookie. Got ass raped in Buffalo…
Their starting LB’s appear to be Joseph Jewell and Jonas Griffith. A day 3 and undrafted player. Both not very fast
That’s not even counting the problems they’ve have at edge.
Really shows how good of a defensive coach Vic Fangio was to make these guys look good
