The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.
1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.
2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.
3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.
4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.
5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.
6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.
6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.
7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.
Original post: You can ignore this now.
Spoiler!
Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.
The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.
Here's how the game will work.
Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)
Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.
Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".
Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.
Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.
Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs
If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.
There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.
I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.
So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.
Teams As Of Post #113:
Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)
Added Rules and Reminders:
1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.
2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.
3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.
For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)
For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)
You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
You are quite the optimist.
Or just lazy. Actually I liked the picks this year. I might have done something different in Round 1 but was on the fence so I took the easier path. After that I felt like the Chiefs really killed it. We'll see. This at least keeps me in the game. [Reply]
not addded free agents from draft if any look like they make the roster
2014 Draft:
1st: DE/OLB Dee Ford Auburn
2nd: OG Gabe Jackson Mississippi State
3rd: OLB Carl Bradford ASU
4th: RB/WR De'Anthony Thomas Oregon
5th: QB AJ MCcaron Alabama
6th: ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky
6th: OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif McGill
Ok I'm updated
1-13: OLB Jarvis Jones Georgia
2-39: QB Geno Smith WVUOk
CB/S Dave Amerson NC State
3-63: TE Travis Kelcie Cincinnati
3-72: WR Stedman Bailey WVU
3-96: OC Brian Schwenkie California
4-99: OG/OT Barrett Jones Alabama
5-134: DT Jessie Williams Alabama
5-141: ILB AJ Klien Iowa State
6-178: DE Joe Kruger Utah
6-204: DE/OLB Mike Capatano Princeton
Trades
Reject Alex Smith trade
sign CB Dunta Robinson $15m/3 years
sign S Hasain Abdullah
sign WR Mardy Gilyard
sign DT Marcus Dixon
sign TE Kevin Brock
sign TE Anthony Fasano 4 years
sign QB Chase Daniel 3 years
sign DE Mike DeVito $12.6m/3 years
sign WR Donnie Avery 3 years
sign CB Sean Smith $18m/3 years ($11m guaranteed)
sign OT/OG Geoff Schwartz
sign FB Ryan D'Imperio
sign LB Chad Kilgore
sign LB Frank Zombo
sign OL Tommie Draheim
qb: I unlike the chiefs have a young qb being groomed
rb: same as chiefs
wr: stronger than the chiefs with crabtree and bowe
Te: unfortunately i didn't draft moeaki so i'm weaker
OL: I have youthfull backups but like chiefs need a rt
c: stronger i have matt tenet as the hier apparent to wegman
k and P: same as chieffs
De: more youth than chiefs with selvie added
DT: stronger than chiefs with Cam Thomas
OLB bout the same as chiefs
ILB : stronger with spikes and DJ
Cb: same as chiefs
S: weaker cause no SS kendrick lewis
overall stronger than the chiefs in certain areas draft needs in no order TE, RT, qb, RB WR unlike the chiefs i'm good at DT.
2009 draft
#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)
2010 draft
1st: Eric Berry S Tennessee
2nd: Javier Arenas CB Alabama
2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
3rd: Jon Asamoah OG Illinois
4th: Kam Chancelor FS Virginia Tech
5th: CAm Thomas NT North Carolina
5th: John Skelton QB Fordham
5th: Matt Tenet OC Boston College
6th: George Selvie OLB South Florida
2011 Draft
1. Mark Ingram rb alabama
2. Dontay. Moch. OLB. Nevada
3. Leonard Hankerson WR. Miami
3. Allen. Bailey. DE. Miami
4. Owen Marecic. FB. Stanford
5. Ricky Stanzi. QB. Iowa
5. Ahmad. Black. S. Florida
6. Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi
7. Lee Ziemba. OT. Auburn
2012 Draft:
1. DT Dontari Powe Memphis
2. OL Jeff Allen Illinois
3. OT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma
4. WR Devon Wiley Fresno State
5. DB Dequan Menzie Alabama
6. RB Cyrus Gray Texas A & M
7. DE Jerome Long San Diego State
7. WR Junior Hemingway Michigan
ok done some thinking
traded Tank Tyler midseason, traded thigpen when we did never traded for the two bumbs in Miami.
so with that 1st, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 3 5ths, and a 6th
QB
12 Smith, Geno
10 McCaron, AJ
HB
25 Charles, Jamaal
28 Mark Ingram -
42 Cyrus Gray
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
Ok my question is if both my qbs are injured reserve who am I allowed to pick up??
In this game, no one. You're running with a street free agent. You have to either draft a guy or get a guy that the Chiefs sign as a free agent. [Reply]
Chiefs free agency losses. If these guys are on your team, they're gone now:
Branden Albert LT Signed KC MIA 5 $47,000,000 Mar 11
Tyson Jackson DE Signed KC ATL 5 $25,000,000 Mar 11
Jon Asamoah G Signed KC ATL 5 $22,500,000 Mar 11
Geoff Schwartz G Signed KC NYG 4 $16,800,000 Mar 11
Dexter McCluster WR Signed KC TEN 3 $9,000,000 Mar 11
Brandon Flowers CB Signed KC SD 1 $3,000,000 Jun 24
Chiefs free agency gains who made the roster. You can add these guys to your team for free.
Kurt Coleman, FS
Frankie Hammond, WR
Ryan Harris, RT
Jaye Howard, DT
Jeffrey Linkenbach, G
Josh Martin, OLB
Josh Mauga, ILB
Kelcie McCray, FS
Mike McGlynn, G
Joe McKnight, RB
Chris Owens, CB
Cairo Santos, K
Daniel Sorensen, S
Damion Square, DE (Wait, who? Where'd this guy come from? He's on our 53-man roster?)
Albert Wilson, WR
Campbell, Jordan FB
Fangupo, Hebron DT
Franklin, Jerry LB
Gottschalk, Ben C
Henry, Ricky G
Schwenke, Kona DT
Surgent, Darryl WR
Walker, Vance, DE
West, Charcandrick RB
Williams, Fred WR
If you had Jon Baldwin on your team, you can trade him for AJ Jenkins. Or keep Baldwin. Whatever. [Reply]
Kurt Coleman, FS
Frankie Hammond, WR
Ryan Harris, RT
Jaye Howard, DT
Jeffrey Linkenbach, G
Josh Martin, OLB
Josh Mauga, ILB
Kelcie McCray, FS
Mike McGlynn, G
Joe McKnight, RB
Chris Owens, CB
Cairo Santos, K
Daniel Sorensen, S
Damion Square, DE (Wait, who? Where'd this guy come from? He's on our 53-man roster?)
Albert Wilson, WR
Campbell, Jordan FB
Fangupo, Hebron DT
Franklin, Jerry LB
Gottschalk, Ben C
Henry, Ricky G
Schwenke, Kona DT
Surgent, Darryl WR
West, Charcandrick RB
Williams, Fred WR
My Draft:
#44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills)
#56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins)
#87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts).
#124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings).
#153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles)
#163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints).
#200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers).
#221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets).
#238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers).
My final 53-man roster last year was this:
QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Geno Smith (Jets)
Tyler Bray
Tyler Wilson (Raiders)
HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Denard Robinson (Jaguars)
ILB
Derrick Johnson
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
AJ Klein (Panthers)
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Josh Mauga, ILB
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DE
DE Mike DeVito
DE Alex Carrington (Bills)
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)
Ropati Pitoitua
Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons)
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Damion Square, DE
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[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Vance Walker, DE
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NT
Star Lotulelei (Panthers)
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Jesse Williams (Seahawks)
Anthony Toribio
#200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers).
Offense: My skill positions are very strong, but my offensive line and FB is a wreck. I lost three starters and two key backups from last year's line, so I'm scrambling, plus Tony Gonzalez retired.
Defense: I think it's better than last year and I've built up my front seven, but I have some glaring weaknesses at OLB and FS, and a very thin CB crew. I finally gave up on Da'Quan Bowers after holding him for years, but had a lot of talent on the D-line this year.
It's been a very strange year. I ended up with 19 new players on my roster, with lots of free agent departures, some retirements, and several guys changing positions.
QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Geno Smith (Jets)
Tyler Bray
Good starter, not much depth.
HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Denard Robinson (Jaguars)
Very strong here. Robinson has moved up to the 2nd string in Jacksonville.
FB/H-Back
2014/#238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers).
He didn't make a team and got cut twice, but I have no one here. So he gets to start for me. I'm very weak here. I may put Charles and Spiller in the backfield a lot and rely on elusiveness.
All of a sudden I have depth galore if the free agents and rookies work out. I even had to make a difficult choice to cut injured WR Leonard Hankerson, who's been a good #3/#4 guy for me in the past.
TE
Anthony Fasano
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
No depth, but let's see how it works out. It hurt to lose Tony G.
OT
Menelik Watson (Raiders)
2014/#56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins)
Ryan Harris, RT
2014/#44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills)
I lost three OTs this offseason - Albert, Schwartz, and Eric Winston, so I'm desperate here. Watson has won a starting role in Oakland, but I'm going to start rookie Morgan Moses at LT. Kouandjio is apparently busting hard in Buffalo as my top rookie pick this year.
G
Alex Boone (49ers)
Mike McGlynn, G
2014/#124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings).
Jeffrey Linkenbach, G
I lost two strong guards this year when Brian Waters retired (as a Chief since I never let him go) and Wade Smith got cut. So Boone will have to anchor the line with some backups.
C
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)
Hopefully solid.
K
Cairo Santos, K
Got lucky here because my previous kicker, Alex Henery, got cut this year. It was a surprise because I thought he was pretty entrenched. So I'll be going with Karo Syrup.
P
Dustin Colquitt
Hall of Famer.
FS
Kendrick Lewis
Jordan Poyer (Eagles)
Kelcie McCray, FS
2014/#153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles)
Dammit! Dammit! I was so wanting to cut Kendrick Lewis. But he won the starting job in Tennessee and my starter last year, Baccari Rambo, got moved to SS. Dammit! I can't even make him a backup! Poyer was moved to FS from CB and will be my dime back.
SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Baccari Rambo (Redskins)
Strong here and also have depth. If Kendrick Lewis is Kendrick Lewis, Rambo may move back to FS for me.
CB
Alphonso Dennard (Patriots)
CB Sean Smith
Chris Owens, CB
My corners got decimated this year. Flowers left and my veteran depth all got cut and Poyer moved to safety. I'm way too thin here.
OLB
Tamba Hali
AJ Klein (Panthers)
Josh Martin, OLB
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers)
2014/#221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets).
2014/#163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints).
Hali and a bunch of backups. I can't seem to solve this problem. I've got some developmental players that I'm stashing in the hope that one of them will develop. Klein was moved outside giving me yet another prospect. Zombo was a tough cut but I figure that I'll go with youth and potential.
ILB
Derrick Johnson
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Zach Brown (Titans)
Josh Mauga, ILB
Zach Brown was moved inside and won his starting job back, so I'm good here.
DE
Star Lotulelei (Panthers)
DE Mike DeVito
Ropati Pitoitua
Vance Walker, DE
Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons)
We're moving Star out to DE, and we now have strong starters. Ropati is starting in Tennessee so we also have some depth.
NT
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
DE Alex Carrington (Bills)
2014/#200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers).
In good news, Brandon Williams won the starting NT job in Baltimore, which allows me to move Star out to DE. McCullers and Carrington are both backups that give me decent depth, with McCullers as a developmental prospect. Jesse Williams went on IR again, so I reluctantly cut him, and I gave up on Da'Quan Bowers, who was moved to DT this offseason.
Tough Cuts:
Quentin Demps, SS
[COLOR="Blue)"]Daniel Sorensen, S
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LB Frank Zombo
Jesse Williams (Seahawks)
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Jaye Howard, DT
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Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Damion Square, DE
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Easy Cuts:
Tyler Wilson (Raiders)
West, Charcandrick RB
Campbell, Jordan FB
Surgent, Darryl WR
Williams, Fred WR
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - Retired
Kevin Brock TE
Branden Albert - Free Agent
Eric Winston
Geoff Schwartz - Free Agent
Brian Waters - Retired
Jason Pinkston (Browns)
Wade Smith
Gottschalk, Ben C
Alex Henery (Eagles)
Brandon Flowers - Free Agent
CB Dunta Robinson
D.J. Moore (Bears)
Chris Carter (Steelers)
Schwenke, Kona DT
Fangupo, Hebron DT
Anthony Toribio
Joe McKnight, RB
Henry, Ricky G
Kurt Coleman, FS
Franklin, Jerry LB
My roster. I think I've obeyed all the rules but let me know if I missed something. After yesterday I'm re-thinking the amount of trust I had in Dorsey.
QB
Alex Smith
Brock Osweiler (Broncos)
Geno Smith (Jets)
Tyler Bray
Aaron Murray
RB
Jamaal Charles
De'Anthony Thomas
Anthony Sherman
WR
Dwayne Bowe
Donnie Avery
Tavon Austin (Rams)
Rishard Matthews (Dolphins)
AJ Jenkins
Frankie Hammond
Albert Wilson
TE
Travis Kelce
Anthony Fasano
OT
Donald Stephenson
Ryan Harris
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff
G
David DeCastro (Steelers)
Zach Fulton
Jeff Linkenbach
Mike McGlynn
C
Rodney Hudson
K
Cairo Santos
P
Dustin Colquitt
S
Eric Berry
George Iloka (Bengals)
Hasain Abdullah
Kelcie McCray
CB
Phillip Gaines
Sean Smith
Jordan Poyer (Eagles)
Chris Owens
OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Ricky Sapp (Jets)
Dee Ford
Josh Martin
ILB
Derrick Johnson
Vontaze Burflict (Bengals)
Josh Mauga
DE
Allen Bailey
Mike DeVito
Vance Walker
NT
Terrence Cody (Ravens)
Cam Thomas (Steelers)
Alameda Ta'amu (Cardinals)
Jesse Williams (Seahawks) [Reply]