Originally Posted by Jimmya:
Fat Andy is known for playoff collapses and some giant ones at that... Bottom line is can Andy Reid finally overcome his nack for blowing playoff games? Just because you love Fat Andy doesn't mean you can't admit his faults.
Wow, you're such a child. Let me guess, you're fat right?
Oh and btw, it's not nack. it's "knack."
And I can see Andy's faults, and I've mentioned them several times in these threads. you on the other hand, seem to have trouble with the truth and facts when it comes to Andy Reid. Things like "he never runs the ball." Or "he doesn't know anything about the defense." Maybe you have something to work on, eh? [Reply]
"In 14 seasons with the Eagles, Reid reached the NFC Championship Game five times but advanced just once. Reid's faulty time management hurt the Eagles in that Super Bowl. Trailing the Patriots by 10 points late in the game, the Eagles took almost four minutes off the clock by using a series of short passes to get a touchdown. That left them little time when they finally got the ball back, and they wound up losing by three points.
Clock management was similarly a problem for Reid and the Chiefs in a January 2016 playoff game against the Patriots. Down by 14 points, the Chiefs took 16 plays and more than five minutes to get a score.
"It seems like it always boiled down to the small details of things: time management sometimes, a wasted opportunity sometimes, a loss of a timeout in an early point of the game," longtime Eagles safety Brian Dawkins said. "Those are some of the things we would see in Philadelphia" [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
What ESPN article?
Though it doesn't really matter, since I never worked for ESPN.
And are you really referencing a game from 2016? When we had Alex Smith for QB? you know that right? Alex was our QB in 2016?
So I just looked at the play-by-play for that game against the Pats in 2016 (yeesh).
1st & 10 at KC 20
(6:29 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles right end ran ob at KC 22 for 2 yards. 12 gets open at the top of his route; Alex elects not to throw.
2nd & 8 at KC 22
(6:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to A.Wilson (M.Butler). 17 is wide open in the middle of the field, Alex feels a little pressure from the MLB but he's picked up by the C, and scrambles to his right, throws to 12 who's covered.
3rd & 8 at KC 22
(5:52 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to C.Conley to KC 38 for 16 yards (J.Coleman). This is actually a nice anticipation throw by Alex. Delivers the ball right after Conley makes his break. 1st & 10 at KC 38
(5:21 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to A.Wilson. Alex throws this out of bounds. 12 never ha a chance to catch this ball.
2nd & 10 at KC 38
(5:16 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to C.Conley ran ob at KC 40 for 2 yards. Alex completes this pass, but he takes so long to deliver it that Conley is forced to come back; should've gone for at least 10 yards, not 2. 3rd & 8 at KC 40
(4:51 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short left to K.Davis. Alex feels pressure up the middle, bails out right and throws short at Davis. 4th & 8 at KC 40
(4:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to J.Avant to NE 47 for 13 yards (L.Ryan). This is another good pass by Alex on time and well-placed. 1st & 10 at NE 47
(4:17 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles left end pushed ob at NE 38 for 9 yards (D.Hightower). This is a head-scratcher for a couple reasons. Alex has a couple places to go with this one, and is well-protected, but opts to run for 9 yards. But if he'd tossed the ball to Davis who was right in front of him, Davis might've run for almost 20.
2nd & 1 at NE 38
(4:07 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to C.West to NE 32 for 6 yards (R.Ninkovich).
1st & 10 at NE 32
(3:30 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles left end ran ob at NE 26 for 6 yards.
(3:30 - 4th) Timeout #2 by NE at 03:30.
2nd & 4 at NE 26
(3:30 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles up the middle to NE 20 for 6 yards (J.Sheard). No pressure. NE playing zone, Kelce is open for the first, Conley is wide open for a 20 yard gain/TD. Even 12 is open on the crosser for at least 10 yards.
1st & 10 at NE 20
(3:00 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to A.Wilson to NE 1 for 19 yards (M.Butler). Alex finally makes the throw to the right guy, but he's late; he waits until 12 has finished his break and has to nearly stop approaching the sideline. Thrown at the break, this is a TD.
1st & Goal at NE 1
(2:33 - 4th) (No Huddle) C.West right guard to NE 2 for -1 yards (J.Sheard; D.Watson). The rest of this is just Andy trying to work around Alex. (2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning
2nd & Goal at NE 2
(2:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NE 2 - No Play.
2nd & Goal at NE 7
(2:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to J.Avant to NE 3 for 4 yards (L.Ryan).
3rd & Goal at NE 3
(1:22 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to J.Avant. PENALTY on NE-L.Ryan, Defensive Pass Interference, 2 yards, enforced at NE 3 - No Play.
1st & Goal at NE 1
(1:22 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short left to C.Conley.
2nd & Goal at NE 1
(1:13 - 4th) Charcandrick West 1 Yard Rush C.Santos extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Winchester, Holder-D.Colquitt.
Now, to be fair, I'd really have to go back and watch the video to be accurate about any kind of analysis of this drive, but I can make a SWAG at it anyway.
Alex starts it off by running for 2 yards. Guessing he made his two reads, panicked and ran for the sidelines to stop the clock, which is smart, but only gained two yards.
Then he throws a deep ball that goes INC. Follows that up with a quick read and a short pass for a 1st.
Alex tries another deep ball that again goes INC.
And that's the last deep throw Alex tries. He completes a couple more balls short, there's a DPI in there, then Andy dials up two runs from the 1-yard line. Between those he calls for a short pass which Alex misses.
In all, Andy calls for 14 pass plays. He dials up at least 4 deep ball plays, not one of which is completed. Two of them never see a pass attempted and go down as QB scrambles.
Hmm. Is there a chance that it wasn't completely about Andy's play-calling/time management? Could there be at least one other explanation for this 16-play 5:16 minute drive?
I just don't know . . .
Do he have a name, maybe? [Reply]
"He’s a highly respected offensive mind, but is still best known for his long history of inexplicable and bewildering time-management gaffes—and his penchant for early postseason exits." [Reply]
"Reid’s reputation for head-scratching postseason coaching decisions has been well-earned. The first example that comes to mind is the lazy, meandering 13-play touchdown drive for Reid’s Eagles late in Super Bowl XXXIX, which did cut the Patriots’ lead down to three points with under two minutes left, but took up nearly four minutes of crucial fourth-quarter time and left his team with little room to finish the comeback attempt. Bookend that with the Chiefs’ 16-play, 80-yard touchdown drive in 2016’s divisional-round loss to the Patriots, a possession that once again pulled Reid’s team to within one score late while simultaneously giving the squad no time to actually win. There’s plenty of other examples to throw in, but his teams’ perennial lack of urgency and inability to finish in big games—not his ability to design and deploy fun, creative offensive schemes—have become Reid’s calling card." [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
"He’s a highly respected offensive mind, but is still best known for his long history of inexplicable and bewildering time-management gaffes—and his penchant for early postseason exits."
I feel like he's best known for his diet. I think that stuff is definitely number two though [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
"Reid’s reputation for head-scratching postseason coaching decisions has been well-earned. The first example that comes to mind is the lazy, meandering 13-play touchdown drive for Reid’s Eagles late in Super Bowl XXXIX, which did cut the Patriots’ lead down to three points with under two minutes left, but took up nearly four minutes of crucial fourth-quarter time and left his team with little room to finish the comeback attempt. Bookend that with the Chiefs’ 16-play, 80-yard touchdown drive in 2016’s divisional-round loss to the Patriots, a possession that once again pulled Reid’s team to within one score late while simultaneously giving the squad no time to actually win. There’s plenty of other examples to throw in, but his teams’ perennial lack of urgency and inability to finish in big games—not his ability to design and deploy fun, creative offensive schemes—have become Reid’s calling card."
Tell you what, Jimmy. Go ahead and re-watch that drive. Really watch it. Especially the receivers Alex doesn't target. And of course Alex as he makes his reads. Because if you watch that drive and can see who's open on each play, there's only one conclusion:
Alex could've put the Chiefs on the 1-yard line or in the EZ in 4 or 5 plays.
Andy gave him every chance to be a hero. Alex didn't even try to make the throws in several cases. Is that on Reid or Alex? [Reply]
This fucking moron literally can’t think for himself. Instead, he let’s the talking heads think for him. And he’s not even denying it, he’s flat out admitting to it.
Congratulations on being one for the dumbest mother fuckers on this board dude. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
Fat Andy is known for playoff collapses and some giant ones at that... Bottom line is can Andy Reid finally overcome his nack for blowing playoff games? Just because you love Fat Andy doesn't mean you can't admit his faults.
Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, do you want Andy Reid to be the head coach of the Chiefs next season? Yes or no? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
"Reid’s reputation for head-scratching postseason coaching decisions has been well-earned. The first example that comes to mind is the lazy, meandering 13-play touchdown drive for Reid’s Eagles late in Super Bowl XXXIX, which did cut the Patriots’ lead down to three points with under two minutes left, but took up nearly four minutes of crucial fourth-quarter time and left his team with little room to finish the comeback attempt. Bookend that with the Chiefs’ 16-play, 80-yard touchdown drive in 2016’s divisional-round loss to the Patriots, a possession that once again pulled Reid’s team to within one score late while simultaneously giving the squad no time to actually win. There’s plenty of other examples to throw in, but his teams’ perennial lack of urgency and inability to finish in big games—not his ability to design and deploy fun, creative offensive schemes—have become Reid’s calling card."
Andy Reid corrected this error by drafting a gunslinger who can easily lead scoring drives of 1-5 plays.
Originally Posted by Jimmya:
Congrats on being a Fat Andy lover.. Hope you don't have to make excuses for him this year. :-)
Any Chiefs fan who doesn’t love Fat Andy is a miserable ungrateful loser.
This team went from Pioli-Haley-Cassel to Reid-Veach-Mahomes in the last decade. We were the 1st seed last year with a first year (starting) QB and we’re an offsides penalty away from going to the SB and probably winning it all.
Then we follow it up with the #2 seed this year and another opportunity to win it all and you are busy in here bringing up articles from talking heads that are looking for a story and desperate to regurgitate their same old narrative? The only reason that narrative still exists is because of Dee fucking Ford. It’s fragile as fuck.
