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Nzoner's Game Room>Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
RunKC 08:08 PM 02-09-2025
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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DRM08 05:41 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Matthews hasn’t missed a start in 11 years.

And he has arguably the best genetics in terms of longevity in NFL history.
All good things come to an end. He's been lucky to make it this far. Potentially a ticking time bomb. I like Matthews more than some of the guys with injury history like Cam Robinson. But no matter which way you go, it's a gamble.
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FloridaMan88 05:45 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by DRM08:
All good things come to an end. He's been lucky to make it this far. Potentially a ticking time bomb. I like Matthews more than some of the guys with injury history like Cam Robinson. But no matter which way you go, it's a gamble.
A much more calculated risk compared to other options since he has no injury history.
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DJ's left nut 05:48 PM 02-11-2025
Still think I'd rather have Armstead.

A) I think he's a little better than Matthews
B) He would probably cost less in terms of acquisition cost and definitely costs a little less in terms of cap.
C) I think he's a little more likely to actually be available.

That said, I do recognize why some would prefer Matthews. The durability is pretty damn impressive. And the difference in ability is pretty negligible -- they're both awfully good, especially in pass pro.

But Atlanta has so much more sweat equity into Matthews (who they drafted and who's played over a decade for them) than Miami has in Armstead, who was a cheap trade and relatively cheap contract. It shouldn't really matter but it does. He's a 'face of the franchise' type player for them. I'd just be really surprised if they had any real interest in moving him.
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pugsnotdrugs19 05:54 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Cool. He just absolutely shut down the Eagles pass rushers. 1 pressure in 50 Stafford drop backs. At that point the dude could cosplay a ****ing T Rex if he wants to, he gets results.
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
His worst games of the season were against Nick Bosa twice and Maxx Crosby. 3 pressures in each matchup. Those are his WORST games.
I’m not sure the Rams scheme is going to transfer in any sort of way in terms of results. They’re run first, every single week.
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FloridaMan88 05:56 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Still think I'd rather have Armstead.

A) I think he's a little better than Matthews
B) He would probably cost less in terms of acquisition cost and definitely costs a little less in terms of cap.
C) I think he's a little more likely to actually be available.

That said, I do recognize why some would prefer Matthews. The durability is pretty damn impressive. And the difference in ability is pretty negligible -- they're both awfully good, especially in pass pro.

But Atlanta has so much more sweat equity into Matthews (who they drafted and who's played over a decade for them) than Miami has in Armstead, who was a cheap trade and relatively cheap contract. It shouldn't really matter but it does. He's a 'face of the franchise' type player for them. I'd just be really surprised if they had any real interest in moving him.
The Falcons have salary cap issues… they will need to make moves.

Keeping Matthews becomes a luxury for them since he’s no longer protecting their QB’s blind side with a left handed QB.
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Sassy Squatch 05:58 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I’m not sure the Rams scheme is going to transfer in any sort of way in terms of results. They’re run first, every single week.
50 drop backs. 1 pressure. Against the team that just skull fucked us and the lit our corpse on fire and then ass fucked the corpse for funsies. Not to mention the clean bill of health. Put it this way, if he's an option he's by far the one I'd feel the most good about pouring resources towards.
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pugsnotdrugs19 06:03 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
50 drop backs. 1 pressure. Against the team that just skull ****ed us and the lit our corpse on fire and then ass ****ed the corpse for funsies. Not to mention the clean bill of health. Put it this way, if he's an option he's by far the one I'd feel the most good about pouring resources towards.
If the Rams let him go at 26, I have my doubts about him for that alone.
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DRM08 06:04 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
50 drop backs. 1 pressure. Against the team that just skull fucked us and the lit our corpse on fire and then ass fucked the corpse for funsies. Not to mention the clean bill of health. Put it this way, if he's an option he's by far the one I'd feel the most good about pouring resources towards.
Some of it might just be gameplanning stuff too. Sometimes Andy will hang both the OL & Mahomes out to dry. Not enough rushing attempts. Too many slow developing plays instead of quick hitters.

If you know you have a major weakness on your QB's blind side, you gotta do something different in the playcalling compared to what Andy has done numerous times through the years.
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Sassy Squatch 06:04 PM 02-11-2025
Also just isn't a true assertion. Chiefs were 10th in the NFL passing on 58.66% of their plays. Rams were 14th with 57.54%.
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Sassy Squatch 06:05 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
If the Rams let him go at 26, I have my doubts about him for that alone.
They've already got Noteboom. Fucking idiotic reason to let him go but there is one.
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pugsnotdrugs19 06:06 PM 02-11-2025
Man just give me a fucking Eric Fisher level tackle again.

Fisher was not much better than Brown. He had games where he really struggled with power and elite rushers. But the consistency is so missed.

Sometimes, and I’m guilty of it too, it feels like we’re trying to replace some elite level LT that we’ve simply never had.
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Sassy Squatch 06:07 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Man just give me a fucking Eric Fisher level tackle again.

Fisher was not much better than Brown. He had games where he really struggled with power and elite rushers. But the consistency is so missed.

Sometimes, and I’m guilty of it too, it feels like we’re trying to replace some elite level LT that we’ve simply never had.
That consistency is exactly why I'm so adamantly against Humphries. That track record speaks for itself, he's going to miss games, and there's a good chance it's going to be a sizable chunk of them.
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Sassy Squatch 06:09 PM 02-11-2025
It's why on second look I might, MIGHT, be able to be talked into Jedrick Wills as a reclamation project. Reading up on it a bit he kind of got fucked by that organization this year. They're also fucking reeruned and ran Baker Mayfield out of town for Deshaun Watson so them giving up on a player holds less credence.

Hell, wasn't a large part of them losing faith in Mayfield precisely because they had him playing injured and it significantly affected him? That's almost exactly the same thing that happened to Wills.
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TheGuardian 06:10 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Man just give me a ****ing Eric Fisher level tackle again.

Fisher was not much better than Brown. He had games where he really struggled with power and elite rushers. But the consistency is so missed.

Sometimes, and I’m guilty of it too, it feels like we’re trying to replace some elite level LT that we’ve simply never had.
Bro this.

I don't care what anyone says we just need a GOOD LT. Not some all world guy. And I do think that happens on here a lot where a guy gets beat a few times and people think he sucks.

We just need SOLID.
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DRM08 06:16 PM 02-11-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Also just isn't a true assertion. Chiefs were 10th in the NFL passing on 58.66% of their plays. Rams were 14th with 57.54%.
And how about the game against the Eagles? Zero rushing attempts by KC in the early drives of the game. Rams had quite a few rushing attempts in their early drives.
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