Originally Posted by O.city:
There's games where it just seems like the Chiefs can't get any pressure.
I dunno that I remember the last time I felt like our OL did that to someone.
It feels like that's been the case the majority of Mahomes' career so far. Struggling to protect him while the opposing QBs stand in the pocket for days.
Not to mention rarely having an above average running game or decent run defense, and only a few years of good WR play.
It's amazing that they've won as much as they have. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Ok, just watched the full condensed game and focused on Wanya Morris. He actually had a decent game. 2 pressures and 1 sack. You may be able to say 3 pressures, but I need someone else to look at it.
1st Quarter - gave up 0 pressures
2nd Quarter - 1 pressure at 9:20 and 1 sack at 1:55
3rd Quarter - 1 pressure at 3:55
4th Quarter - Maybe a pressure at 3:33, his man got around him just enough to get Mahomes to step up, but the main culprits were Smith and Taylor. They got destroyed and killed any chance of a pocket.
Hell id figure out a way to keep Morris and Humphries in the game and get Taylor out of there. He got wrecked by Clowney multiple times.
Maybe not a terrible game overall, but he got obliterated at least twice in key moments. Like he wasn't even standing there. [Reply]
I said I don't know if he is or not. Andy doesn't make big changes to the OL, but this dude probably wouldn't have signed here if he didn't have some assurances.
I said they wouldn't sign him, but so did DJLN and he said it because of the same reason I said it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I said I don't know if he is or not. Andy doesn't make big changes to the OL, but this dude probably wouldn't have signed here if he didn't have some assurances.
I said they wouldn't sign him, but so did DJLN and he said it because of the same reason I said it.
Your logic was not flawed going by Andy’s previous trends. Luckily, it seems all involved understand the scope of this situation. We are going for history here, and comfort zones are out the window.
You have a Pro Bowl LT sitting around in free agency in November who wants to play for you, then you goddamn sign him. Glad they did the right thing, would have been easy for them to just roll with the guys we have. It’s not like we’re sitting here at 7-4 and fighting for our playoff lives. We’re the damn #1 seed and they’re still out here improving.
Just an amazing organization to be a fan of at this point in time. They do everything right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Maybe not a terrible game overall, but he got obliterated at least twice in key moments. Like he wasn't even standing there.
The first pressure was on first down and the play was a screen that his guy got to Mahomes, but didn't cause any disruption. The play wasn't going anywhere if he picked up his block. Also it's a screen and usually they don't put up much fight to block.
The sack came on 1st down around midfield and they still scored a TD.
The second pressure was actually at 4:30 left in the 3rd and it was on third down. Patrick couldn't step up again because Trey Smith and Jawaan Taylor couldn't keep Clowney out of the back field even with a double team. Hell that's an iffy pressure too because if they can hold up, then Morris pushes his guy around the back of Mahomes. Mahomes was half a yard short in the play and they picked it up on 4th and short. They then scored.
The only play that he was absolutely obliterated was the one where he gave up the sack.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
If Taylor lines up the same way every time, why didnt Smith struggle last year? Or this season up until about a month ago?
**** that, Smith doesn't get to use Taylor as a scapegoat. Dude want to get paid. Earn it.
One of them gets paid 20m, I'm less annoyed by the one that doesn't.
Trey's had a couple of ugly games but outside of that, including against the Panthers, I don't think he's been bad at all. Not great, not bad. Morris has been at best a notch below, at worst terrible. Taylor, we're paying him a boatload and he's still gifting penalties.
Not saying Trey is playing his best football but jeez the OTs, I don't know how they're not the bigger issue. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
One of them gets paid 20m, I'm less annoyed by the one that doesn't.
Trey's had a couple of ugly games but outside of that, including against the Panthers, I don't think he's been bad at all. Not great, not bad. Morris has been at best a notch below, at worst terrible. Taylor, we're paying him a boatload and he's still gifting penalties.
Not saying Trey is playing his best football but jeez the OTs, I don't know how they're not the bigger issue.
Whether or not to resign Trey might be the single biggest question this coming off-season. He's playing like shit right now. There's nothing to be done about Taylor. His contract is what is. Outside of the penalties, he has been decent until these last few game. Which is coincidentally right when Smith started playing bad.
I'm not saying anything about the tackles at this point, they're a known quantity for better or worse. Trey Smith is supposed to be better than this and if he wants to stay with this team, he's going to have to play A LOT better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
One of them gets paid 20m, I'm less annoyed by the one that doesn't.
Trey's had a couple of ugly games but outside of that, including against the Panthers, I don't think he's been bad at all. Not great, not bad. Morris has been at best a notch below, at worst terrible. Taylor, we're paying him a boatload and he's still gifting penalties.
Not saying Trey is playing his best football but jeez the OTs, I don't know how they're not the bigger issue.
Jesus Christ, I feel like most of you don't go back and watch the games at all. Wanya Morris has actually been decent over the last few weeks. Quit basing your opinion on what others are saying or what you think you saw live during the game.
Wanya Morris has been more than competent at LT. If he keeps up this, then he can be our LTOTF. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Whether or not to resign Trey might be the single biggest question this coming off-season. He's playing like shit right now. There's nothing to be done about Taylor. His contract is what is. Outside of the penalties, he has been decent until these last few game. Which is coincidentally right when Smith started playing bad.
I'm not saying anything about the tackles at this point, they're a known quantity for better or worse. Trey Smith is supposed to be better than this and if he wants to stay with this team, he's going to have to play A LOT better.
Ive never seen stunts work better than what they are working against that right side. Smith cannot figure it out. It's weird. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Jesus Christ, I feel like most of you don't go back and watch the games at all. Wanya Morris has actually been decent over the last few weeks. Quit basing your opinion on what others are saying or what you think you saw live during the game.
Wanya Morris has been more than competent at LT. If he keeps up this, then he can be our LTOTF.
Mahomes' footwork on 3rd and long says otherwise and yesterday, his actions were warranted.
Anything 3rd-and-8+, sure feels like Wanya is getting whooped to the edge. It's killing Mahomes' mechanics on those plays. He gets instant happy feet. [Reply]
