Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
He's like, holy shit I don't even know how to play football and somebody just drafted me!
And, I love it. Raw talent out the wazzu. This guy could be GREAT, or he could be Ryan ****ing Leaf. But we at least WENT FOR IT
Ryan Leaf was a grade A douche. This kid seems like anything but. If you don't love him after watching highlight tapes, you definitely will after listening to him. Great combination of humble and confident. [Reply]
Mahomes has the highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. The only problem is there is a more of a potential for him to bust than most high ranking QBs. Has all the tools, just has to put them together. I actually think he can as long as he can learn to read defenses.
I like Mahomes alot better than Mitch fucking Tribisky as far skills. [Reply]
No. 10 Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
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Patrick Mahomes' upside is the real Tony Romo. His downside is the internet meme version of Romo from Eagles/Giants message boards of the last decade.
Mahomes is Brett Favre-like in the way the neighborhood teenager throwing rocks from the sidewalk and breaking windows of the old abandoned warehouse is Brett Favre-like: You love the arm but question the judgment.
Just how highly you rate Mahomes depends upon whether you see him throw across his body to a triple-covered receiver in the middle of the field for a 30-yard gain and think: "Dang, this young man has magical playmaking sorcery," or "if he tries that 20 times in the NFL, he will throw 19 interceptions and the whole organization will get fired."
Make no mistake about it: If Mahomes were forced to start a full season as a rookie, he would not only throw 25 interceptions but would also endure 50 sacks with his Michael Vick-stuck-in-second-gear approach to pocket discipline.
But the tools are the tools, there is certainly no shortage of courage, and when Mahomes isn't making things up as he goes along, there are flashes of decision-making brilliance to go along with all of that pure, unrefined talent.
If any coach can settle Mahomes down without taking away his sizzle, it's Andy Reid. And Reid has a year or so to wait with Alex Smith still playing at...well...an Alex Smith level.
My issue is that the Chiefs have been in playoff also-ran mode for years. They could have traded up and upgraded their defense to get over the top in 2017. Reid's Eagles tended to get stuck in 10- 11-win ruts. They could swap out quarterbacks and remain in the same rut, because they still have too many needs in other areas.
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Mahomes has the highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. The only problem is there is a more of a potential for him to bust than most high ranking QBs. Has all the tools, just has to put them together. I actually think he can as long as he can learn to read defenses.
I like Mahomes alot better than Mitch ****ing Tribisky as far skills.
Any of them can be a bust and that certainly includes Mahomes, but...
I think there is a bigger bust potential with Trubisky. They spent so much to move up one spot and the #2 pick for him seems outright ridiculous in the first place. He only has 13 starts and Gruden busted him on national TV with the issue of hard counts. The Bears apparently only spent about 15 minutes interviewing him at the Combine. Chiefs spent 6+ hours interviewing each QB including Mahomes, Trubisky, Watson, Kizer, etc. And which evaluation do you trust on a quarterback? I'm going with Andy Reid/John Dorsey's thorough evaluation over the apparent half-ass due diligence by John Fox/Ryan Pace.
And heck, I'm not sure Watson is as prepared for the NFL as some people think. Clemson's offense required very few reads on his part and his velocity numbers give him very little margin for error at the NFL level. He was already throwing too many INT's in college. What happens to his INT numbers in the NFL against much faster defenses given his velocity issue? He's not exactly a super accurate passer to begin with. [Reply]
The same people outside of KC that don't think we can win a SB with Alex (everybody) are wondering why the Chiefs traded up for a QB instead of a "win now" move
