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FringeNC 04:22 PM 12-15-2024
Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.
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KCUnited 04:48 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by Kman34:
This team is exhausted.. We need to wrap this shit up so they can rest..
Why rest the starters when we can work on the deep ball timing with a patchwork oline??
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Ming the Merciless 04:48 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
The o-line play hasn’t been that much different than previous years. We’ve had issues at LT since Fisher left. We had absolutely nothing at WR last year and Mahomes still looked better than this year.

Eventually, people are just going to have to admit that Mahomes is not playing well this year. It’s really that simple. He’s clearly not putting in the work he used to because he’s exhausted, overextended, and constantly having to play injured. That’s the issue, not the o-line.
he is under pressure constantly....

did you watch the game?

most of the plays the line is getting pushed back with zero time to drop back...

It's genuinely stunning that "fans" can't understand that this goes both ways. better line play , better WR play , better TE play will all build on each other and QB play. it's a system and all connected. Yes it's malfunctioning but it can't be pinned in one guy

for example the TE blocking was garbage today... etc
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Chiefspants 04:50 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Oh, I don't think they are going to stop throwing them because they've absolutely been open.
Then we’re going to need a line that can block them or Patrick to do some hypnotherapy to make him believe that can block them.
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KCUnited 04:57 PM 12-15-2024
Shutting Uche down: Buffoons

Practicing the deep ball with Thuney at LT against Miles Garrett: 4D chess
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Bl00dyBizkitz 05:10 PM 12-15-2024
Maybe the better question to pose here is: Are we actually going to flip the switch this year?

Because that seems to be what a ton of people here are banking on. Just the hope that things will change in the postseason and that change will be enough to get us to the promised land.

But man, these guys just look tired. Last year was more frustration at the lack of execution. This year, it's exhaustion. Just running on E, barely anything left in the tank. I truly don't know if there's enough energy TO flip the switch, once we're in the postseason.
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Chiefspants 05:25 PM 12-15-2024
Fire up the meltdown threads after the Vegas game last year and a lot of people were asking the same thing (are we out of gas, etc)
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BigRock 05:30 PM 12-15-2024
If the offensive line play is bad then maybe calling pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass isn't the best strategy.
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Why Not? 05:35 PM 12-15-2024
Um, not sure OP understands what “elephant in the room” means? That’s a phrase for something that goes unsaid or called out. Everyone knows our tackles suck and it’s often discussed here.
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BigRedChief 05:41 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
No explosive plays/no explosive players besides Worthy. Every TD drive comes on 10+ play drives… hard to consistently rely on that.
Mahomes has had all season to get right on his deep balls. He's still not even close on those. Can we win a 3peat without throwing the ball deep?
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Bl00dyBizkitz 05:44 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Fire up the meltdown threads after the Vegas game last year and a lot of people were asking the same thing (are we out of gas, etc)
It's just hard to do. And its not exactly a replicated strategy of success. I can't think of many teams who did it like we did last year, where we looked done towards the end and pulled a 180 on everyone.

I'm not saying we can't because it's Andy and Patrick, you can never count them out in the postseason. No one would want to do the dirty work of knocking us out of the playoffs.

But its hard to look at everyone's faces, even from the very beginning of the season, and see the absolute exhaustion out of everyone, and not be at least a bit concerned.
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BigRedChief 05:46 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Maybe the better question to pose here is: Are we actually going to flip the switch this year?

Because that seems to be what a ton of people here are banking on. Just the hope that things will change in the postseason and that change will be enough to get us to the promised land.

But man, these guys just look tired. Last year was more frustration at the lack of execution. This year, it's exhaustion. Just running on E, barely anything left in the tank. I truly don't know if there's enough energy TO flip the switch, once we're in the postseason.
Because of the success of the Mahomes era, we have played a whole extra season of football and those 17 extra games are all playoff games, High intensity and stressful games.
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FringeNC 06:01 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by BigRock:
If the offensive line play is bad then maybe calling pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass after pass isn't the best strategy.
What difference does it make -- 4.5 yards per pass vs. 3.8 yards per run. We can't do either one. You can argue about play calling with respect to clock management, sure, whatever, but to focus on play calling misses the issue, which is unless this offense somehow gets much better, winning the SB again is going to be really, really hard.
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FringeNC 06:02 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
Um, not sure OP understands what “elephant in the room” means? That’s a phrase for something that goes unsaid or called out. Everyone knows our tackles suck and it’s often discussed here.
I was absolutely disgusted with the play-calling second guessers. That's such bullshit and not the issue.

Edit: I believe there were numerous threads with that fuckig idiocy about play calling.
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Why Not? 06:07 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by FringeNC:
I was absolutely disgusted with the play-calling second guessers. That's such bullshit and not the issue.

Edit: I believe there were numerous threads with that ****ig idiocy about play calling.
Oh I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t think anyone thinks are tackle play has been good.
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BigRock 06:12 PM 12-15-2024
Originally Posted by FringeNC:
What difference does it make -- 4.5 yards per pass vs. 3.8 yards per run. We can't do either one. You can argue about play calling with respect to clock management, sure, whatever, but to focus on play calling misses the issue, which is unless this offense somehow gets much better, winning the SB again is going to be really, really hard.
What difference does it make? Ask Mahomes tomorrow while he's getting an MRI.
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