Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I enjoyed the Rudd stuff. I laughed for probably 10 minutes at his throw away line "try harder" :-).
The best part about Rudd's part is that he REALLY fucking cares. The stuff about his kid crying and all the stuff about next year and and all that did a couple things; First it effectively articulated the struggle that other teams might not know. Second it showed how much he really cares, which is for us. You hear about celebrity fans and yeah, maybe, but it's good that he actually cares. And it's weird to me - I know less than nothing about the celebity actor life but there aren't many rabid fans. It's good that we have one.
Rudd worked for me.
The I'm on it thing was good. And that's what I keep saying, they're honest. Hell, in a moment of honesty, most players would overrate themselves, but they've all been coached to pretend to be humble. What makes the thing go is that they're not spewing what3ever the PR guy tells them to.
I too was kind of surprised he threw Gonzo up there automatically. Gronk I get, and when he talked about motivating him to make his transition, that was really interesting. As we get older and have watched a million guys roll out to play football, it's easy to forget how impactful certain players can be in formative years.
I also think him talking about being a shithead was insightful. That can't be easy to sit there and talk about, but it was interesting to listen to.
Jason's "c'mon - it wasn't about you going to bars, you go to bars NOW" thing got a chuckle from me.
But I think what I found most interesting was that the switch to TE led him to "a love of the game I never had before..." It just kinda explains why he puts so much into playing his position - he genuinely loves playing TE.
I also thought it was pretty honest of him to say "hey - I liked it because I was good at it. I didn't have Brian Kelly chewing my ass for not throwing the football anymore..." [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I found their discussion about media talking heads pretty enlightening. Don't play like shit and they wont talk shit.
Yeah, Jason's "You set the narrative" thing was great to hear. He's not wrong. Yeah, sometimes guys go too far and are too critical, but there's always a kernel of truth in there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Jason's "c'mon - it wasn't about you going to bars, you go to bars NOW" thing got a chuckle from me.
But I think what I found most interesting was that the switch to TE led him to "a love of the game I never had before..." It just kinda explains why he puts so much into playing his position - he genuinely loves playing TE.
I also thought it was pretty honest of him to say "hey - I liked it because I was good at it. I didn't have Brian Kelly chewing my ass for not throwing the football anymore..."
Yeah, that was pretty interesting stuff.
I'm GUESSING he quit going to the bars in college, but goes with the guys after he matured in the pros.
All those quotes were profoundly interesting. Same with the ones about learning the defense. It shows how he's so good at the finding openings business instead of just running a route like most guys do.
Just tidbits like that are worth the price of admission, and the self-deprecation about being not very good at it helps smooth the rough spots. I'm truly impressed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, Jason's "You set the narrative" thing was great to hear. He's not wrong. Yeah, sometimes guys go too far and are too critical, but there's always a kernel of truth in there.
Heh. Yeah, exceptions exist. The hot take factories will always be out there spewing nonsense, but on the whole, he's pretty right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Heh. Yeah, exceptions exist. The hot take factories will always be out there spewing nonsense, but on the whole, he's pretty right.
Yeah there's some guys out there like Bayless that spew nonsense all the time to generate ratings. But he's not probably talking about them anyway.
By and large, the good analysts will talk about you based on how good or bad you've played. Simple as that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yeah there's some guys out there like Bayless that spew nonsense all the time to generate ratings. But he's not probably talking about them anyway.
By and large, the good analysts will talk about you based on how good or bad you've played. Simple as that.
Even the bomb throwers don't make shit up out of whole cloth.
They'll find something legitimate and then embellish it. But even Bayless can't find a way to argue that Patrick Mahomes is a bad quarterback or Travis Kelce can't play anymore. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Even the bomb throwers don't make shit up out of whole cloth.
They'll find something legitimate and then embellish it. But even Bayless can't find a way to argue that Patrick Mahomes is a bad quarterback or Travis Kelce can't play anymore.
Um, Bayless uses any chance he gets to argue Mahomes is overrated... [Reply]
Great podcast. I have watched 3 episodes. Jason is such a cool dude. The type of dude you meet at a bar, have a drink with and talk about sports and just life in general.
Him and Travis have very good chemistry, too. [Reply]
I think this is my favorite podcast, and I listen to a shitload of podcasts. We'll see how it ages, but it's firing 100MPH.
The interesting football stuff from this one was Kelce liking the London game. I thought the players didn't like it. Also interestingly he thought it "broke up" their weeks. I'm guessing this is why this team comes out flat and lays eggs sometimes, they need to be juiced up or something. IDK. Just wasn't what I was expecting from that conversation.
Also it was kind of not what I expected about the Lamar conversation. After playing with Mahomes, it would be hard for me to say Lamar is one of the best QBs in the league. He's apparently friends with Andrews who he feeds, but Lamar makes a SHITLOAD of bad throws and I'm sure Kelce has to know it. He's never going to come out and be like this dude is a RB like CP does, but he came in hot with praise.
It was also interesting his comments on getting money and betting on yourself. The comments aren't surprising in a vacuum, but he definitely did not do that in his career. He has been pretty goddamned reasonable the whole fucking time. I'm sure he's fine and all, but it was an interesting comment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Um, Bayless uses any chance he gets to argue Mahomes is overrated...
He does, but it's all scripted. In reality you have to wonder if Skip believes anything he says. He is taking the opposing side of an argument with Shannon for the drama/ratings.
That said, I'd probably punch Skip in the face if I had to hang out with him.
What a douchebag. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I think this is my favorite podcast, and I listen to a shitload of podcasts. We'll see how it ages, but it's firing 100MPH.
The interesting football stuff from this one was Kelce liking the London game. I thought the players didn't like it. Also interestingly he thought it "broke up" their weeks. I'm guessing this is why this team comes out flat and lays eggs sometimes, they need to be juiced up or something. IDK. Just wasn't what I was expecting from that conversation.
Also it was kind of not what I expected about the Lamar conversation. After playing with Mahomes, it would be hard for me to say Lamar is one of the best QBs in the league. He's apparently friends with Andrews who he feeds, but Lamar makes a SHITLOAD of bad throws and I'm sure Kelce has to know it. He's never going to come out and be like this dude is a RB like CP does, but he came in hot with praise.
It was also interesting his comments on getting money and betting on yourself. The comments aren't surprising in a vacuum, but he definitely did not do that in his career. He has been pretty goddamned reasonable the whole fucking time. I'm sure he's fine and all, but it was an interesting comment.
The Bengals essentially gave Jackson anything downfield he wanted to take a shot at and he missed probably a half-dozen downfield shots.
To his credit, he's become better at intermediate routes, but teams are going to dare him to beat them deep and there are simply going to be games where he doesn't have it - it happens to better throwers than Lamar Jackson.
And at some point it will happen in the post-season. He tried desperately to give that game against the Bengals away but Cincy's O-Line wasn't having it. If you have a team that simply doesn't have a fundamental, fatal flaw, they're going to smoke Baltimore in weeks like last week. [Reply]
I wonder if they'll get any backlash from the comments about white people not being corners. How, if there was a white corner, they'd target them all day long. And calling them a highlighter. Don't get me wrong, I laughed. I could just see those who are easily offended taking issue with it. [Reply]
