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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Looks like we’re paying Bolton and letting Trey walk
RunKC 01:06 PM 11-13-2024
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Hopefully Bolton doesn’t rape us.

I think this is the most likely outcome unfortunately. Trey is gonna get $21 million APY.

Hoping we can keep Hopkins, Hardman and Juju on fair deals, maybe Uche if he’ll agree to a fair deal and extend Thuney’s deal to free up cap space and push that can down the road a bit.

Hicks can replace Reid. Wanya will likely replace Trey and we’ll look for a LT somewhere.
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Direckshun 08:53 AM Yesterday
So, why couldn't we tag and trade Trey, for a Sneed-like 3rd in 2025, or 2026?
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duncan_idaho 05:49 PM Yesterday
I'd say... let them both walk.

Spend the money in FA at positions that make a bigger impact.

There are some free agent tackles that I would try to pay if given the chance over Trey Smith. Cam Robinson, Garrett Bolles, Jedrick Wills, Ronnie Stanley, Joe Noteboom.

There are pass rushers I'd focus on first, too. If Omenihu looks recovered or close to it, I'd prioritize signing him over signing Bolton for sure. Josh Sweat would be an interesting addition if he hits the market. Etc.
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pugsnotdrugs19 12:34 PM Today
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
So, why couldn't we tag and trade Trey, for a Sneed-like 3rd in 2025, or 2026?
You aren't getting a 3rd back for him when he will be on a $23-25m-ish tag.

You might however get a 3rd round comp pick if he walks.
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Chiefspants 01:36 PM Today
We need to let both walk.

Bolton has taken a half step back and unfortunately needs to be in the Top 3 of his position to justify a second contract. I recommend re-watching our 2022-2023 playoff games. Bolton was everywhere, and I mean everywhere. I had forgotten just what a constant force he was on nearly every play. Since his wrist injury, he occasionally has put together a game like that, but it seems like he might just be a half-step more timid compared to his 2022 form. I love Bolton, but I do not think his position (even if he’s in the Top 10 at the position) justifies a second contract.

But, Spags really, really values the QB of his defense (it’s why we played an unplayable Hitchens a season too long), so we’ll see how it shakes out.
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DJ's left nut 02:11 PM Today
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
We need to let both walk.

Bolton has taken a half step back and unfortunately needs to be in the Top 3 of his position to justify a second contract. I recommend re-watching our 2022-2023 playoff games. Bolton was everywhere, and I mean everywhere. I had forgotten just what a constant force he was on nearly every play. Since his wrist injury, he occasionally has put together a game like that, but it seems like he might just be a half-step more timid compared to his 2022 form. I love Bolton, but I do not think his position (even if he’s in the Top 10 at the position) justifies a second contract.

But, Spags really, really values the QB of his defense (it’s why we played an unplayable Hitchens a season too long), so we’ll see how it shakes out.
Don't forget that he had Gay running shotgun and taking the sideline to sideline responsibility then. Now he has Tranquil who's a very smart player but a clear step (probably two steps) slower and less athletic than Gay.

Losing Willie has exposed Bolton, IMO. I'd be fine letting Bolton walk, signing Gay in the off-season for the Will role and putting Tranquil at Mike.
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Chiefspants 04:06 PM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Don't forget that he had Gay running shotgun and taking the sideline to sideline responsibility then. Now he has Tranquil who's a very smart player but a clear step (probably two steps) slower and less athletic than Gay.

Losing Willie has exposed Bolton, IMO. I'd be fine letting Bolton walk, signing Gay in the off-season for the Will role and putting Tranquil at Mike.
I’m still bewildered about how we handled Gay. He was a pretty big cog in our gameplan against significant rivals (the Ravens and Bills) and that alone seems like it should have justified us matching NOLA’s deal with him. NOLA did have him as a healthy scratch early in the year, so maybe there really is more than meets the eye there?
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DJ's left nut 04:22 PM Today
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
I’m still bewildered about how we handled Gay. He was a pretty big cog in our gameplan against significant rivals (the Ravens and Bills) and that alone seems like it should have justified us matching NOLA’s deal with him. NOLA did have him as a healthy scratch early in the year, so maybe there really is more than meets the eye there?
He's a freelancer and sometimes a bit of an idiot.

Those guys drive coaches crazy. Because they believe that any breakdown in a defense must be execution rather than scheme.

So when they see a guy leave the scheme to make a play, it barely registers. But when that guy fails to execute within the scheme and the defense fails, they don't think of it as the flipside of the coin, they think of it as proof that said player isn't an asset.
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Chiefspants 04:29 PM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He's a freelancer and sometimes a bit of an idiot.

Those guys drive coaches crazy. Because they believe that any breakdown in a defense must be execution rather than scheme.

So when they see a guy leave the scheme to make a play, it barely registers. But when that guy fails to execute within the scheme and the defense fails, they don't think of it as the flipside of the coin, they think of it as proof that said player isn't an asset.
I could see how he could rely on his talent to cover up those lapses, especially to fans who know none the wiser.

It’s crazy that it takes a complete monstrous trainwreck like Todd Haley to straighten some of those guys out, but damn it if DJ didn’t transform into an elite backer after a year of being on Haley’s shitlist.
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