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DeezNutz 08:33 PM 09-20-2009
Has anyone seen him? His friends and family are worried.

What happened to our impact LB? The sack machine? The difference maker?
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DaneMcCloud 09:00 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
Is this a serious question?

You don't think someone can talk shit about something that's true?

I'm not sure how to explain this to you.
The guy is not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

Regardless, why is it "wrong" to talk about his play?

This is a football forum, correct?
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doomy3 09:02 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
The guy is not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

Regardless, why is it "wrong" to talk about his play?

This is a football forum, correct?
Didn't say it was wrong. I simply said that you guys get off on any thread that is designed to badmouth a player. It's proven just about every thread on this board. It's fine, I'm just saying that it is very predictable. No one would even have to open this thread and would know who would be dominating the thread with their same rhetoric.
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DaneMcCloud 09:04 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by scott free:
If Tamba stays the same, or gets worse as the year progresses...i wont defend him.

Until then, i'll back him...if i'm wrong, so what? i dont feel the need to be right 100% of the time.
It's isn't a matter of "right or wrong".

It's a matter of being able to recognize whether or not someone is suited to play a particular position and if so, excel or suck at said position.

No one is saying that Hali doesn't work hard. That would be ludicrous. The guy has the heart of a champion.

But, he's flat-footed, not particularly quick, fleet or fast. He doesn't move his hips well and is clueless in coverage. He's not nifty enough to get past an average offensive tackles (much less an elite tackle) and he doesn't have any instincts to speak of, meaning he doesn't read and react well.

Now, if you want to take all of those things as a positive, be my guest.

I'll take them at face value, thank you.
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Reaper16 09:05 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
Didn't say it was wrong. I simply said that you guys get off on any thread that is designed to badmouth a player. It's proven just about every thread on this board. It's fine, I'm just saying that it is very predictable. No one would even have to open this thread and would know who would be dominating the thread with their same rhetoric.
Is there an argument to be made in favor of Tamba Hali's play?
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DaneMcCloud 09:05 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
Didn't say it was wrong. I simply said that you guys get off on any thread that is designed to badmouth a player. It's proven just about every thread on this board. It's fine, I'm just saying that it is very predictable. No one would even have to open this thread and would know who would be dominating the thread with their same rhetoric.
Water is wet.

It's football forum. We don't have much to praise.

Let's tear a few guys apart. You know, for fun!

We don't have much else to talk about when it comes to the Chiefs.

"Hey, did you see that Beisel guy today!".

Nope.

Doesn't work.
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the Talking Can 09:05 PM 09-20-2009
Hali is not explosive...he doesn't move people...he usually just engages and gets tied up


nice guy, hard worker...that's it

we literally need 4-6 new lbs....i'm not sure we even have backup quality players on our roster right now...ok, a bit of hyperbole, but not much
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doomy3 09:06 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's isn't a matter of "right or wrong".

It's a matter of being able to recognize whether or not someone is suited to play a particular position and if so, excel or suck at said position.

No one is saying that Hali doesn't work hard. That would be ludicrous. The guy has the heart of a champion.

But, he's flat-footed, not particularly quick, fleet or fast. He doesn't move his hips well and is clueless in coverage. He's not nifty enough to get past an average offensive tackles (much less an elite tackle) and he doesn't have any instincts to speak of, meaning he doesn't read and react well.

Now, if you want to take all of those things as a positive, be my guest.

I'll take them at face value, thank you.

He abused Gaither at least 3 times last week, one resulting in a sack and 2 resulting in holding (tackles from behind) to save Flacco. Jared Gaither is a very good/elite LT.
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doomy3 09:07 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by Reaper16:
Is there an argument to be made in favor of Tamba Hali's play?
Nope. Maybe we should start a thread about every player on the roster who hasn't been favorable so far.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:07 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
Is this a serious question?

You don't think someone can talk shit about something that's true?

I'm not sure how to explain this to you.
Some fans are sheep. They blindly think every thing the Chiefs do will turn to gold. Others are critical thinkers. They break down and analyze the consequences of the actions made and wonder about their effects.

You are the fan equivalent of a hipster douchebag.
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DaneMcCloud 09:08 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
He abused Gaither at least 3 times last week, one resulting in a sack and 2 resulting in holding (tackles from behind) to save Flacco. Jared Gaither is a very good/elite LT.
I disagree.

Gaither's a second year starter that's still finding his way. He was a fifth round supplemental pick and he's on an offensive line with like four other first round choices.

I'd hardly refer to him as "elite".
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:09 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by the Talking Can:
Hali is not explosive...he doesn't move people...he usually just engages and gets tied up


nice guy, hard worker...that's it

we literally need 4-6 new lbs....i'm not sure we even have backup quality players on our roster right now...ok, a bit of hyperbole, but not much
Every one of our LBs, save DJ, have the ability of core special teams players.
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kcpasco 09:10 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Some fans are sheep. They blindly think every thing the Chiefs do will turn to gold. Others are critical thinkers. They break down and analyze the consequences of the actions made and wonder about their effects.

You are the fan equivalent of a hipster douchebag.
What about the fans who blindly think every thing the Chiefs do will turn to shit?
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Easy 6 09:11 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
What about the fans who blindly think every thing the Chiefs do will turn to shit?
:-)
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doomy3 09:11 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I disagree.

Gaither's a second year starter that's still finding his way. He was a fifth round supplemental pick and he's on an offensive line with like four other first round choices.
You don't think Gaither is a very good LT? Alright. We definitely disagree about this. He started 15 games last year and gave up 3 sacks. At 23 years old.
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doomy3 09:12 PM 09-20-2009
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Some fans are sheep. They blindly think every thing the Chiefs do will turn to gold. Others are critical thinkers. They break down and analyze the consequences of the actions made and wonder about their effects.

You are the fan equivalent of a hipster douchebag.
OK. I couldn't care less about your opinion, or the pointless drivel in the post I quoted.
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