Originally Posted by staylor26:
This is missing the point though. No rules were exploited, only the defender's momentum was exploited. That's why this is all so fucking reeruned.
He was still waiving the ball, or still had it in his right hand, which never even came close to leaving the field of play.
I have no clue how the people who say the defenders pulled think he "faked" going out of bounds. And then they say the defenders were afraid to hit him, but why in TF does that mean they couldn't extend their arms and push him out of bounds?
Laying a big hit isnt the only way to get someone out of bounds.
It's just an absolute moronic take, and it's crazy so many people are either just so damn stupid, or they didn't even watch but are just parroting what others say. Again, if you watch football on any type of regular basis, you should not think he faked going out of bounds. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Eh, I just don't bother. I think many of the rules about RTP/unnecessary roughness are stupid as hell, but they are what they are. People want to complain because QBs are taking advantage, take it up with the competition committee or whatever. The game is trending softer, and there's no going back now.
Some people love it because it means scrambling, athletic, smaller QBs are protected like they never were before, and those guys will be able to stay healthy for a few more years than they could have in the past. Which is good for general viewership. And at the end of the day, the NFL is all about the $$$.
That's just the thing. It isn't about "quarterbacks", it's about MAHOMES. There's literally thousands of post on social media about this that say if that were Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, they would have gotten de-cleated. People are convinced that Patrick Mahomes gets special treatment above and beyond the rules that protect all QBs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That's just the thing. It isn't about "quarterbacks", it's about MAHOMES. There's literally thousands of post on social media about this that say if that were Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, they will upd have gotten decorated. People are convinced that Patrick Mahomes gets special treatment above and beyond the rules that protect all QBs.
I mean, if we're honest about it, or rather, let's just say, if I'm honest about it (don't want to speak for everyone out of turn), they aren't wrong.
It's the same exact circumstances we saw when Brady was playing. There's no doubt in my mind that Brady received extra special kid-gloves treatment, because he was the GOAT. Manning got similar treatment in his day. We all are well-aware of that, right? Watched all that shit in real time, didn't we?
Well, now it's Mahomes' turn. This is always how the league has worked. It's how every league works. See MJ. SSDD. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I mean, if we're honest about it, or rather, let's just say, if I'm honest about it (don't want to speak for everyone out of turn), they aren't wrong.
It's the same exact circumstances we saw when Brady was playing. There's no doubt in my mind that Brady received extra special kid-gloves treatment, because he was the GOAT. Manning got similar treatment in his day. We all are well-aware of that, right? Watched all that shit in real time, didn't we?
Well, now it's Mahomes' turn. This is always how the league has worked. It's how every league works. See MJ. SSDD.
He got knife handed in the fucking throat and there was not penalty, even when the ref saw it happen from 5 feet away. Mahomes isn't getting special treatment any more than any other QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That's just the thing. It isn't about "quarterbacks", it's about MAHOMES. There's literally thousands of post on social media about this that say if that were Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, they would have gotten de-cleated. People are convinced that Patrick Mahomes gets special treatment above and beyond the rules that protect all QBs.
If it was Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, those same idiots would be raving about how athletic those guys are to embarrass Fred Warner — one of the most athletic LB’s in the sport. Mahomes does not get anywhere near enough credit for his mobility. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I mean, if we're honest about it, or rather, let's just say, if I'm honest about it (don't want to speak for everyone out of turn), they aren't wrong.
It's the same exact circumstances we saw when Brady was playing. There's no doubt in my mind that Brady received extra special kid-gloves treatment, because he was the GOAT. Manning got similar treatment in his day. We all are well-aware of that, right? Watched all that shit in real time, didn't we?
Well, now it's Mahomes' turn. This is always how the league has worked. It's how every league works. See MJ. SSDD.
Except Mahomes does not get special treatment, certainly not anywhere near Brady or Peyton Manning. On Sunday Mahomes got punched in the throat with a ref watching it and no flag. Ravens got away with hitting him out of bounds. I have seen way more weak roughing the passer calls in favor of Josh Allen than anything for Mahomes through the years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He got knife handed in the fucking throat and there was not penalty, even when the ref saw it happen from 5 feet away. Mahomes isn't getting special treatment any more than any other QB.
Yeah, that one pissed me off as well.
But that's one play that the refs somehow missed. And I know they've missed others over the years as well. In general though, Pat gets a lot of calls that another QB wouldn't. Because he's the face of the NFL. Same as Brady did. Same as Manning did. Same as Montana did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Except Mahomes does not get special treatment, certainly not anywhere near Brady or Peyton Manning. On Sunday Mahomes got punched in the throat with a ref watching it and no flag. Ravens got away with hitting him out of bounds. I have seen way more weak roughing the passer calls in favor of Josh Allen than anything for Mahomes through the years.
Maybe. I confess I haven't watched every single Mahomes or Josh Allen game. And certainly I've never bothered to count up every bad call/non-call ever in their respective games. If there's a place where those stats are available I might be interested in taking a look around to see how they stack up.
My point was that the truly elite/special players that become the face of their leagues have always gotten special treatment, in any sport, since the beginning of time. It's practically a rule. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
My point was that the truly elite/special players that become the face of their leagues have always gotten special treatment, in any sport, since the beginning of time. It's practically a rule.
Maybe it's because players for the opponents often go after those superstars in an attempt to hurt them at every opportunity. Players like Mahomes are targeted just to get them out of the game. When you're some run of the mill crappy QB, they want you to stay in the game, so they're not targeting you for extra roughness. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I mean, if we're honest about it, or rather, let's just say, if I'm honest about it (don't want to speak for everyone out of turn), they aren't wrong.
It's the same exact circumstances we saw when Brady was playing. There's no doubt in my mind that Brady received extra special kid-gloves treatment, because he was the GOAT. Manning got similar treatment in his day. We all are well-aware of that, right? Watched all that shit in real time, didn't we?
Well, now it's Mahomes' turn. This is always how the league has worked. It's how every league works. See MJ. SSDD.
Back when Brady/Peyton playing, you could lay bigger hits on QBs and I do believe those two got more protection.
Now, they really are protecting all QB's so it is not same.
Sure, there is still some issue when they take off and are nominally RBs, but it is not like it was with Brady. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That's just the thing. It isn't about "quarterbacks", it's about MAHOMES. There's literally thousands of post on social media about this that say if that were Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, they would have gotten de-cleated. People are convinced that Patrick Mahomes gets special treatment above and beyond the rules that protect all QBs.
And Josh Allen is the king of flops. Has received a lot of calls from the refs by acting like he got crushed when all he received was a little tap [Reply]
