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Nzoner's Game Room>We owe Wanya Morris an apology
RunKC 11:58 AM 11-11-2024
Didn’t realize just how bad it could be without him and boy was it bad.

Say what you want but the kid is a functional LT that is getting better. It’s hard finding average LT’s but I’d say he’s pretty damn close to average and that’s okay.

He’s the same caliber as Donovan Smith to me but he’s young and not falling apart.

Say what you want guys….getting a functional starting LT that is steady and not a bust at the end of rd 3 is an A+ draft pick.

Believe the hit rate in rd 3 is roughly 15% so getting this type of value is a big value to us.
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Sassy Squatch 12:32 PM 11-11-2024
Keep repeating that he's not THAT bad if you desire. But the data shows that he's really fucking bad.

Again, over 60 pressures surrendered when extrapolating his body of work so far over a full 17 game season. Most years there isn't even an OT that breaks that mark.
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Sassy Squatch 12:34 PM 11-11-2024
It's not heavily skewed by his rookie season either. 6 healthy games, 23 pressures surrendered in 2023. 6 healthy games, 19 pressures surrendered in 2024.
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ToxSocks 12:37 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Keep repeating that he's not THAT bad if you desire. But the data shows that he's really fucking bad.

Again, over 60 pressures surrendered when extrapolating his body of work so far over a full 17 game season. Most years there isn't even an OT that breaks that mark.
Best we got and still better than Kingsley.
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Sassy Squatch 12:38 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
Best we got and still better than Kingsley.
I agree with that. But the fact he's the best option we have is a pretty bad gaffe by the organization.
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RealSNR 12:38 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
LT this year may be the biggest gaffe of the Mahomes era. I just cannot fathom how the Chiefs were content to roll with Suamataia as the starter. Now they've pivoted to Wanya Morris with an apparently bum knee who's liable to drop on any given play and force Suamataia back onto the field.

What did you want them to do this year?

We can’t keep bringing back Donovan Smith. We have to find a starter. We tried to do that this year
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Danguardace 12:38 PM 11-11-2024
I rewatched the Raiders game on all 22 and Wanya was nowhere as bad as was made out.
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PatMahomesIsGod 12:39 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by xztop123:
Kingsley is a 36 pff grade
Seems overly generous.
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RunKC 12:40 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Keep repeating that he's not THAT bad if you desire. But the data shows that he's really ****ing bad.

Again, over 60 pressures surrendered when extrapolating his body of work so far over a full 17 game season. Most years there isn't even an OT that breaks that mark.
Genuinely curious. How is this compared to Orlando Brown Jr in 2022? Bc man tackle was horrific from both players. Orlando Brown Jr had the worst pressure % in the league per PFF that year.

2022 pressure rate allowed (regular + postseason):

Orlando Brown Jr. - 6.49%
Andrew Wylie - 6.24%

— Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) March 7, 2023

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smithandrew051 12:40 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod:
Seems overly generous.
I think you get some points for spelling your name correctly.
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PatMahomesIsGod 12:41 PM 11-11-2024
Still think he’s a good starting G, shit tackle.
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PatMahomesIsGod 12:43 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I think you get some points for spelling your name correctly.
The old SAT minimum.

Blocking sleds grade at 25.
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Sassy Squatch 12:43 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
What did you want them to do this year?

We can’t keep bringing back Donovan Smith. We have to find a starter. We tried to do that this year
That question has been answered multiple times. Smith or Bahktari. Get them both in and sign the one that is brokeded the least. They may be old and broken down, but they're almost guaranteed to be better than Suamataia currently and for all the talk of them being brokedicks Wanya has had to exit multiple games now with this knee issue he's having.
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RunKC 12:44 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
They need to NOT pay Trey Smith AND let Thuney walk. Slide Wanya in at LG and spend that money on a LT.

We haven't had a permanent solution at LT since Fisher left. That was a long time ago.

It's time to stop ****in' around.
I think Wanya would be best fit at RG. I think he could replace Trey Smith with minimal drop off bc he’s such a good fit there.

Cam Robinson is a FA and I don’t care that he’s 30 next year. If they feel Wanya isn’t the answer there and Kingsley can’t play then their #1 need in the offseason is getting that guy.
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O.city 12:45 PM 11-11-2024
You were always gonna have to draft and develop a guy or go trade for a sign a high priced one.
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BWillie 12:48 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
You guys want Donovan Smith back yeah?

He was top 5 in pressure % given up. I don’t see any notable difference between Smith and Wanya tbh. Well except Smith is old and falling apart.
Yes. Imagine if Morris went down.
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