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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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Mile High Mania 12:00 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by Toad:
Depends on how one defines “good enough” vs “elite”.
If the relative performance gap between Wilson and Mayfield are anywhere close to similar, then the Broncos mortgaged their future for a few years.
If you're suggesting that Denver should have waited for this trade opportunity to have happened before making a move at QB, that's crazy. Denver may have been able to make a trade for Mayfield early on, but it would not have been this cheap.

Mayfield is young, he has that going for him, but he hasn't proven anything.

Denver should have drafted Allen rather than Chubb, that's really the glaring mistake out of all this related to QB decisions.
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Mile High Mania 01:40 PM 07-07-2022
And while the majority of the focus is on Wilson and what he brings... I think the RB duo of Williams/Gordon will be the driving force of what defines their success. Those two are game changers and worked well last year, so I have all the confidence in the world they will combine for greater production this season which will do great things for Wilson and the receivers.
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RealSNR 01:46 PM 07-07-2022
Denver got great deals on QBs for years. Flacco and Bridgewater were similar draft pick compensation to Mayfield in Carolina, and Keenum was "pennies on the dollar for a starting QB" or some shit or whatever.

I don't think waiting for Mayfield to come aboard would have been a wise move.
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MagicHef 01:56 PM 07-07-2022
Oof. I had forgotten we traded for Flacco and Bridgewater, not signed them as FAs. Those were both horrible moves.
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Mile High Mania 02:02 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Oof. I had forgotten we traded for Flacco and Bridgewater, not signed them as FAs. Those were both horrible moves.
Flacco was one of the worst decisions ever, yes well ahead of Keenum.
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Rainbarrel 02:39 PM 07-07-2022
The plan was to put it on Rodgers back. It's on Moob's sternocleidomastoid now
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Garcia Bronco 03:11 PM 07-07-2022
We'll see how the Chiefs run likes pigs from a gun. He is the WalRuss.
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RealSNR 03:17 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Oof. I had forgotten we traded for Flacco and Bridgewater, not signed them as FAs. Those were both horrible moves.
I'd be interested some time to take a poll of Bronco fans and ask them to rank the post-Manning Elway QBs.

I imagine many would rank Semen as the best.
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BlackOp 03:24 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Flacco was one of the worst decisions ever, yes well ahead of Keenum.
Moobs better deliver fast or this will be a worse move...

Fans will lose patience with the "well, at least the score was close" around week 9...losing Fant, Harris and Miller didn't exactly strengthen an already weak roster.

Luckily, you get some bottom feeders through the first 8 weeks...

It's post-season or bust this year...just being "better" doesn't justify the cost...you could have been simply better by signing Ryan, keeping your picks/players. There was a lot of cheap talent at #10 this year...and into the top of the 2nd.
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Willie Lanier 04:02 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Oof. I had forgotten we traded for Flacco and Bridgewater, not signed them as FAs. Those were both horrible moves.
Hey we've made some pretty bad moves ourselves, the one that sticks out is Ryan Sims as the #4 overall draft pick; different from a trade, but equally disappointing
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Mile High Mania 04:36 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I'd be interested some time to take a poll of Bronco fans and ask them to rank the post-Manning Elway QBs.

I imagine many would rank Semen as the best.
File 'em all under "failed" and move on. I mean, when I drop a deuce, I don't look to see which was the biggest turd... I just flush and move on.
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Mile High Mania 04:37 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Moobs better deliver fast or this will be a worse move...

Fans will lose patience with the "well, at least the score was close" around week 9...losing Fant, Harris and Miller didn't exactly strengthen an already weak roster.

Luckily, you get some bottom feeders through the first 8 weeks...

It's post-season or bust this year...just being "better" doesn't justify the cost...you could have been simply better by signing Ryan, keeping your picks/players. There was a lot of cheap talent at #10 this year...and into the top of the 2nd.
It's all good... wonder what this place will look like around week 7 when people start the "we never should have traded Reek threads".
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04:58 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
It's all good... wonder what this place will look like around week 7 when people start the "we never should have traded Reek threads".
I'd say more like "we shouda traded Reek two years ago"

Number 15 's getting ready to make it 15 straight on you guys
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RaidersOftheCellar 05:33 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
It's all good... wonder what this place will look like around week 7 when people start the "we never should have traded Reek threads".
Keep the predictions coming….God knows you guys have a great track record of success. :-)
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BlackOp 06:01 PM 07-07-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
It's all good... wonder what this place will look like around week 7 when people start the "we never should have traded Reek threads".
It may not work out how you would like...here are MVS's stats from 2020. Neither Hill nor MVS made the list in 2021.

If I adjust his 33 receptions to match Hill's 87.....his numbers are actually better.

They both would have 15 TDs...his 40+ yard receptions (which he was already better with 6/tied for tops in the NFL) balloons to 15 compared to Hill's 5. His 20+ yard reception come in at 26 compared to Hills 20.

Pretty amazing he is the at top of this list with only 33 receptions...and 6 of those being 40+ yards.

Take a look who is immediately under him...might explain why he was underutilized.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when KC doesn't skip a beat...and picked up 5 draft picks. Veach went after him for a reason.


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