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Nzoner's Game Room>The Bills take the AFC this seasom
JustDíqLix 05:53 PM 08-21-2023
Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬
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Sassy Squatch 02:51 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Don’t want to listen to me? Fine. Listen to MVP voters;

x.com/emmanuelacho/status/1833201404741357875?s=46
:-) Same chode says you guys will suck shit.

.@EmmanuelAcho keeps it real with #BillsMafia ...

"The truth is, this is likely the worst season y'all will have in the last 5 years." pic.twitter.com/vMreMeaQbY

— Speak (@SpeakOnFS1) May 30, 2024

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DJ's left nut 09-10-2024, 02:51 PM
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Sassy Squatch 02:52 PM 09-10-2024
Yeah, this isn't even fun anymore. It's pretty clear by your pathetic attempts to fantasize about Allen on the Chiefs and this appeal to authority to Emmanuel fucking Ocho that your heart just really isn't into it.
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mr. tegu 02:53 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
And even if the kicker didnt fail, it was for a fucking tie. Dick Licks acting like that was the game winning FG or some shit.

We all know how this goes. Whoopie, you tie it up and then Mahomes finishes you off in OT.

Same ol'.

Or the fact that on two consecutive plays prior to the missed field goal Allen tried really hard to give us a defensive TD. On second down he threw a for certain pick 6 to Sneed that McDuffie broke up. The very next play he had a terrible fumble which was so close to being recovered, perhaps for a TD.
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kpic 03:05 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
Alright **** face, lets do this.

1. Reid was recently fired from Philly and was thought of as a HC that was a poor game/clock manager and never ran the ball. It was said that he was a terrible talent evaulator and helped burn Philly's roster to the ground and that he couldn't win shit w/o his retired (fired?) DC.

No one was talking about him as a future HOF. **** outta here.

4. A Team that hadn't won a playoff game in 50 years and was just laughed off the field by a pathetic Steelers team. **** off with that "playoff" shit.

5. Alex Smith never won a playoff game you ****ing moron.

6. You're a ****ing moron.

GTFO with that gay shit
Just to clarify a bit...

Jim Johnson was Andy's DC in Philly at the time, he actually passed away prior to 2009\2010(?) season. Most at the time pointed to him (Jim) being the required piece that Andy needed and was instrumental in a lot of the success Andy had at the time.

Are we forgetting the 2015 season already!? Alex Smith and the Chiefs taking on Bobby Hoyer and the Houston Texans in Houston and whooping them 30-0? Knile Davis taking the opening kickoff 100 yards to a TD! A lot of us old-timers were in tears after that game washing away the 0-8 playoff record since 1993 season. Mahomes did end up breaking the 'Home Playoff' drought but let us not forget our humble beginnings.

I've checked on the "You're a ****ing moron." part and it appears you are correct on that one so carry-on.
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Smed1065 03:06 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Ahh, yes, I do recall when Josh Allen missed that field goal at the end of the game.

You’re right.
Score a damn TD then. Ohhh. NM
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duncan_idaho 03:08 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Oh, and lets also remember that there was almost 2 minutes left in that game.

It wasn't going to overtime. If Bass hits the kick, Mahomes takes it down the field and finishes what he started.

Unlike Allen. Who's claim to fame is almost winning a playoff game before the better QB nipped him at the line.

Again.
Exactly.

The Chiefs were getting the ball back with, at worst, 90 seconds left, and two timeouts. They would have just gone and gotten into FG range and ended it that way, even if Bass makes it.
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DJ's left nut 03:48 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Exactly.

The Chiefs were getting the ball back with, at worst, 90 seconds left, and two timeouts. They would have just gone and gotten into FG range and ended it that way, even if Bass makes it.
It would've been one of those things where we cruised down the field, score a FG to win it and the talking heads say "hey, the Bills played them tough; only lost by 3..."

When the only thing that kept us from putting up a TD was clock management.

Mahomes was winning that game.

It's why I say I wish that Garapollo would've actually hit that throw to Emmanuel Sanders. Mahomes would've come back down the field and taken the lead back. I'm sure of that.

I wouldn't have cared if Diggs would've caught that ball and housed it - Mahomes wasn't losing that game. He'd have marched them down the field for the winning TD if he had to.

All some of these things have ever done is take away chances for more Mahomes greatness.
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Sassy Squatch 03:53 PM 09-10-2024
:-) Yep. That's why it's so hilarious to see Diqlix in here whining about Bass when Allen was fucking up repeatedly on that drive.
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RealSNR 04:11 PM 09-10-2024
Josh Allen is too stupid to win a Super Bowl, Diqlix. And you know it.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a Brett Favre moment where he asked one of the backup QBs, "Okay, wait... what's a nickel defense again?"

If the situations were reversed and Allen played for Andy, I think it'd be like Favre in Green Bay. MAYBE Andy carries his dumb ass to one ring. But as for all of these tight close games where Mahomes has HAD to be great? You really think Josh has the smarts to make the right decision with the ball that quickly and also the mental courage to not psych himself out? And if you think that, show me ANY other "gotta have it game" where Josh Allen came through for you in the clutch other than 13 seconds (a game he fucking lost lol).

As for basically winning all of Mahomes' rings? All three? Fucking miss me with that shit.

Josh has Stupid QB Syndrome, diqlix. I'm very sorry.
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Sassy Squatch 04:17 PM 09-10-2024
He had his chance in January to slay that demon and beat Mahomes in a playoff game. The best he could muster was a game tying FG attempt with over a minute and a half left of game time for the Chiefs to respond
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Rausch 04:21 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
He had his chance in January to slay that demon and beat Mahomes in a playoff game. The best he could muster was a game tying FG attempt with over a minute and a half left of game time for the Chiefs to respond
I think he's the only AFC QB capable of beating Mahomes at this point. Burro isn't healthy enough to last a season and his WR corps is revolting against the team.

And in a perfect world Burro has the higher IQ and ceiling but he's a notoriously slow starter that's pretty beat up. Wouldn't shock me if he went full Andrew Luck in a few years.

Oddly enough Allen's body has held up to the insane beating he's been putting it through. That won't last forever but it has surprisingly well so far...
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DJ's left nut 04:22 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Josh Allen is too stupid to win a Super Bowl, Diqlix. And you know it.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a Brett Favre moment where he asked one of the backup QBs, "Okay, wait... what's a nickel defense again?"

If the situations were reversed and Allen played for Andy, I think it'd be like Favre in Green Bay. MAYBE Andy carries his dumb ass to one ring. But as for all of these tight close games where Mahomes has HAD to be great? You really think Josh has the smarts to make the right decision with the ball that quickly and also the mental courage to not psych himself out? And if you think that, show me ANY other "gotta have it game" where Josh Allen came through for you in the clutch other than 13 seconds (a game he fucking lost lol).

As for basically winning all of Mahomes' rings? All three? Fucking miss me with that shit.

Josh has Stupid QB Syndrome, diqlix. I'm very sorry.
What makes Allen appreciably different from Donovan McNabb?

Big, athletic, strong-armed, erratic accuracy, questionable decision-making.

Reid can do a lot with a guy like that. And yeah, he's probably better now than he was then. He'd probably do MORE with Allen than he did with McNabb.

But how much? Get to 2 Super Bowls instead of just 1? Win one of the two instead of lose the one he actually made it to?

Okay. I can buy that. If the Bills had taken Mahomes and the Chiefs Allen, perhaps the resumes would be a bit closer. I do think Reid probably gets a championship done with Allen. And I question just how much McDermott could've won with Mahomes.

But I absolutely think the Bills manage a title in 2020 or 2021 with Mahomes. They damn sure don't lose to the friggen Texans in 2019. They don't turtle up and quit against the Bengals in the Divisional round in 2022.

Undoubtedly the question is CLOSER if the two guys switched sides. But if you put Allen on the Chiefs, the team isn't as good as it is with Mahomes on the Chiefs. It just isn't. And if you put Mahomes on the Bills, they win MORE than they've won with Allen.

Do situations have something to do with how WIDE the resume gap between the respective players is? Sure. But ceteris paribus, Patrick Mahomes is going to give you better outcomes every time than Josh Allen.
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DJ's left nut 04:25 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I think he's the only AFC QB capable of beating Mahomes at this point. Burro isn't healthy enough to last a season and his WR corps is revolting against the team.

And in a perfect world Burro has the higher IQ and ceiling but he's a notoriously slow starter that's pretty beat up. Wouldn't shock me if he went full Andrew Luck in a few years.

Oddly enough Allen's body has held up to the insane beating he's been putting it through. That won't last forever but it has surprisingly well so far...
Absolutely.

I've said it repeatedly - Allen is the only guy in the NFL who's A game is on par with Mahomes A game.

He can trade punches with Mahomes over a 1-game sample size. And one day it might even be enough to beat him when it matters.

But how you play on your B, C and D games matters. Or in Allen's case, his F games (because Mahomes has had one F half in his entire career). And in that regard, it's Mahomes in a walk.
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MahomesMagic 04:37 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Josh Allen is too stupid to win a Super Bowl, Diqlix. And you know it.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a Brett Favre moment where he asked one of the backup QBs, "Okay, wait... what's a nickel defense again?"

If the situations were reversed and Allen played for Andy, I think it'd be like Favre in Green Bay. MAYBE Andy carries his dumb ass to one ring. But as for all of these tight close games where Mahomes has HAD to be great? You really think Josh has the smarts to make the right decision with the ball that quickly and also the mental courage to not psych himself out? And if you think that, show me ANY other "gotta have it game" where Josh Allen came through for you in the clutch other than 13 seconds (a game he ****ing lost lol).

As for basically winning all of Mahomes' rings? All three? ****ing miss me with that shit.

Josh has Stupid QB Syndrome, diqlix. I'm very sorry.


The difference between Josh and Lamar last playoffs was the Buffalo coaching staff was smart enough to not have Josh passing much against the Chiefs D.

They knew Allen would get confused and make too many dumb mistakes if he was asked to play like a Mahomes.

So Allen was instructed to just dump the ball off if he was confused and that was one of the great last gifts Daboll left the Buffalo B team offensive coaches with regards to Allen.
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DRM08 04:41 PM 09-10-2024
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Ahh, yes, I do recall when Josh Allen missed that field goal at the end of the game.

You’re right.
I recall Josh fumbling on the final drive and getting away with it. Chiefs guy screwed up the recovery. I also recall Mecole Hardman fumbling on the Buffalo goal line. The Bills were very fortunate to only be down by 3 points instead of 10 points at the end.
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