- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I don’t get it. Why would you hate Skyy Moore?
Hate Veach for keeping him on the roster. Hate Reid for having him run routes.
What has Skyy Moore ever done? It’s not like he’s Toney making Chiefs diss tracks. By all accounts he’s been a great teammate at every step.
Just doesn’t seem right to make this guy a villain for being WR7 when he hasn’t been any sort of problem off the field.
Ever look at Skyy's youtube channel he had for a bit and was absolutely going to throttle if he ever became a good player?
He's probably our cringiest player, man. I said it when he was coming out of the draft. He screamed "Patriot way douche." His origin story as a try hard without much talent getting overdrafted and turning into a try hard without much talent in the pros is quite fitting.
I was one of his fans when we drafted him, too, because I placed a ton of trust in Veach and Reid. I listened to the people who talked about his ability to get open in college and his short area quickness and I said, "Neat. We could use a consistent player like him. He'll be a chain mover for sure. I like it." But at this point? Man, even his special teams play is unremarkable, and I can't necessarily say he'd clearly be better on teams than Remigio, Ross, or Washington. They all do the exact same thing, except Remigio has a more charming backstory, Ross actually does impressive physical things from time to time, and Washington has speed.
Oh well. Maybe Andy can craft together dozens of different Corndog-type plays where Skyy is wide the fuck open and it's a simple light toss from Mahomes. He can do that just fine, at least. Who knows... you get enough of those, and the guy might have 1000 yards! [Reply]
He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.
He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.
This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).
To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:
If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Devils advocate hype train:
He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.
He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.
This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).
To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:
If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.
Of, as Veach says, take a BIG swing.
What a high quality and positive post about Skyy. Would love to see him not suck but I can't even say we've seen glimpses. I bet the aforementioned players fans saw glimpses in those first two seasons. Obv hope he balls out. Seems like a good kid. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Devils advocate hype train:
He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.
He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.
This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).
To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:
If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.
Welker was a really good route runner and Edelman had the fast as fuck feetwork.
Skyy doesn't have anything.
But I don't think it's a big deal, if they don't want to give up on their 2nd round pick yet then okay. Maybe there's a tiny chance he could improve and give us a 500 yard season in his 4th year or something like that.
The rest of the receiver room looks stacked and it should be way better than last year. Worthy and Rice are going to explode! Then you have some veterans that will be making some plays. This offense is going to look a lot better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Devils advocate hype train:
He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.
He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.
This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).
To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:
If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.
Of, as Veach says, take a BIG swing.
I like the effort. It is a gallant effort.
Now do the corresponding snap counts and targets. [Reply]
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.
With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.
And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.
So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.
He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.
Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.
But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.
With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.
And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.
So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.
He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.
Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.
But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?
I mean possibly, he's lucky the guy he was competing with did stupid things off the field because his biggest plus is well Skyy Moore won't say anything, he won't post stupid shit online. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.
With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.
And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.
So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.
He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.
Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.
But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?
This is what I figured with Clyde. I was watching some superbowl celebration videos and players clearly love the hell out of him and he seems like a guy people like having around. Hes like a big brother to guys like Pacheco and a little brother to guys like Kelce. And the Chiefs media and social media people clearly like him. I bet he has the same effect on coaches and FO.
I guess if you can't produce, you might as well be the most friendly guy and overall good guy to be around. It works in regular life so why wouldn't it work in football. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.
With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.
And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.
So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.
He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.
Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.
But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?