Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Kudos on a good draft last year, but keep in mind, you guys hit on a center, a guard, and maybe an ILB. Those aren't exactly premium positions. You can find good players (maybe not Humphrey level) at those positions every year on day 2 and 3.
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Dude...Donks have had a shit OL since before Manning....have you forgotten how much money/resources Horseface threw at it...and failed miserably? Your center was the only decent lineman for years.
You act like...yeah, sure just pick a couple in the middle rounds and good to go. :-) Your team had the 27th ranked pass protecting OL last season.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Russ, Javonte Williams, Bolles, Jeudy, Surtain and Simmons.
Then we have guys like Sutton, Chubb, DreMont Jones, and McManus.
The delusion is strong with ^this one^.
From zero Pro Bowlers to six just like that, huh?
Russ went from a conference dominated by old guys where he was maybe, at times, a Top 3 QB (clearly behind Rodgers and Brady) to a conference where he might be Top 3 in his own division? Behind Mahomes and Herbert, but maybe better than Carr? (although Carr has much better weapons in the passing game than Russ right now, so we’ll see…..). He now is in a conference with young ascending QB’s: the aforementioned Mahomes and Herbert, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. I mean, maybe he’s 6th best if it all works out? He ain’t making no Pro Bowls anymore, though.
Javonte and his 4.4 ypc aren’t scaring anybody. Yes, he’s a solid young back, but he’s in a conference with Jonathon Taylor, Derrick Henry and Nick Chubb. Sorry, no Pro Bowls for you.
Bolles was terrible last year. 2020 is looking like an outlier year for him when you stack it up against all the rest of his years in the league. Good thing he had that one good year to land that nice contract extension from Denver, huh?
Judy isn’t even worth mentioning. This guy has had bust written on him since the day he was drafted. He has yet to accomplish anything of note in the NFL (I mean, 3 TD’s in 2 full seasons, really?) and now he’s getting into trouble off the field. Everyone can see where his career path is heading.
Simmons I’ll give you and Surtain will probably make a PB soon, possibly as early as this season, so that’s two. Long ways from six plus. The other guys you mentioned have zero reason to be discussed amongst the best in the league. Sorry.
So you may get a couple this year, and for the record, I DO think your team will be better this year, but you still will finish 3rd or 4th in the AFC West, at best.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Even if he is, so is every other elite QB who isn't on their rookie deal. Truly elite QB's are worth it, and Russ is one of those guys. Now, if Denver had to give Kirk Cousins that deal it would totally crater the team.
Too bad those picks are in the back end of round 1.
The Jags had a ton of picks too after trading Jalen Ramsay. They ended up trading the best CB in the league for K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Ettiene.
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Bolles was terrible last year. 2020 is looking like an outlier year for him when you stack it up against all the rest of his years in the league. Good thing he had that one good year to land that nice contract extension from Denver, huh?
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I said when this was happening...that the NFL had instructed the refs to limit holding calls. Bolles was a penalty machine. Donks fans wanted him gone...then overnight, a quality LT.
I was joking back then that the Donks were going to get screwed if the NFL reverted back to the old rules....since Bolles contract season just happened to coincide with this one year officiating experiment.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Even if he is, so is every other elite QB who isn't on their rookie deal. Truly elite QB's are worth it, and Russ is one of those guys. Now, if Denver had to give Kirk Cousins that deal it would totally crater the team.
Too bad those picks are in the back end of round 1.
The Jags had a ton of picks too after trading Jalen Ramsay. They ended up trading the best CB in the league for K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Ettiene.
19th per PFF (which I believe you cite all the time).
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Russ, Javonte Williams, Bolles, Jeudy, Surtain and Simmons.
Then we have guys like Sutton, Chubb, DreMont Jones, and McManus.
Yeah, your whole team will probably do what they couldn’t last year, while playing in a tougher division vs a much tougher schedule. Seems highly likely.
Also seems likely that the third best QB in his own division is going to the Pro Bowl after downgrading to weaker receivers and learning a new system. :-) [Reply]
Good watch. Thanks for posting. The ‘Russ offense’ is what it is. Predictable. It can be successful, but gets stale over time. The biggest thing that the video failed to bring up or mention as to why it can be so successful was because of who was in it, namely 2 elite receivers in Tyler Lockett and D.K. Metcalf.
The Donkos receiving corps has no one on that level, which is going to seriously hamper the ‘Russ offense’ in Denver. Add to the fact that it’s a new offense being installed and run in Denver for the first time with a bunch of primarily younger players who have yet to find real NFL success, there will be some obvious growing pains. May be another long year in Denver and another rough one for KnowMo.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Kudos on a good draft last year, but keep in mind, you guys hit on a center, a guard, and maybe an ILB. Those aren't exactly premium positions. You can find good players (maybe not Humphrey level) at those positions every year on day 2 and 3.
Let's not forget Veach's shaky draft history prior to 2021. His first and second round picks produced guys like Breeland Speaks, Clyde Edwards Helaire, Mecole Hardman, Frank Clark and Orlando Brown Jr.
Sheesh.
It's amazing to watch this dude spend so much time on another team board trying to convince everyone that their team is better. Like you're really going to win those arguments?
What a sorry existence it must be wanting so desperate to be relevant....
