The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.
For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.
A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.
The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.
Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.
If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:
Mahomes was drafted to a team with:
1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith
He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.
Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:
1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs
Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.
If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.
So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.
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Did i fucking nail it, or did i nail it?
What a loser ass post. Good to have you back, Dick Licks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Mahomes has had 2x as many serious injuries than Allen has.
The bump on his hand stuff is just nonsense.
It’s cumulative. Cam Newton was a workhorse with no major injury issues … until he wasn’t.
Just like RBs.
Keep him using him like a FB in the red zone and padding his TD stats (and covering up for his lack of efficiency and success throwing in the tighter area the red zone provides).
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.
Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.
If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:
Mahomes was drafted to a team with:
1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith
He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.
Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:
1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs
Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.
If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.
So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.
So your entire argument is based what-ifs.
Meanwhile, KCs defense has been mediocre at best for Mahomes' entire career before this last season. That includes his first year as a starter when he was one Dee Ford penalty away from beating Brady to go to the Super Bowl despite the dog shit Chiefs D that year.
Even Allen's playoff peak...the 13 Second Game...only happened because KC's secondary was laughably bad and couldn't even stay on their feet.
I get it, you have to be optimistic. It's too soon for you to admit he's a more athletic Phillip Rivers, but you'll get there eventually. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThrobProng:
Mahomes has had zero serious injuries, so your math is way the **** off.
Last time I checked, Mahomes dislocated his patella in 2019, sidelining him for games, and followed that up with a nasty high ankle sprain in the 2022 season (2023 playoffs). Meanwhile, Allen has had—*checks notes*—NOTHING. Yet all of you endlessly rant about how Allen’s running style is bound to get him injured, and guess what? IT HASN'T. In fact, the only injuries he’s ever had—minor ones, at that—happened while standing in the pocket. But sure, keep waxing poetic and gushing over how Allen’s running will *someday* hurt him. That day, if it ever comes, will be only half as many serious injuries as Mahomes has had not running. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
It’s cumulative. Cam Newton was a workhorse with no major injury issues … until he wasn’t.
Just like RBs.
Keep him using him like a FB in the red zone and padding his TD stats (and covering up for his lack of efficiency and success throwing in the tighter area the red zone provides).
It will shorten his career.
Ignorant fans love the Cam Newton example. They just have forgotten that Cam’s career derailed due to a shoulder injury that happened NOT when he was scrambling! [Reply]
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Last time I checked, Mahomes dislocated his patella in 2019, sidelining him for games, and followed that up with a nasty high ankle sprain in the 2022 season (2023 playoffs). Meanwhile, Allen has had—*checks notes*—NOTHING. Yet all of you endlessly rant about how Allen’s running style is bound to get him injured, and guess what? IT HASN'T. In fact, the only injuries he’s ever had—minor ones, at that—happened while standing in the pocket. But sure, keep waxing poetic and gushing over how Allen’s running will *someday* hurt him. That day, if it ever comes, will be only half as many serious injuries as Mahomes has had not running.
The dislocated patella - 2 games, wanted to finish the game in which he was injured. Not a serious injury.
The high ankle sprain - 0 games, beat the league's best defense in the Super Bowl. Not a serious injury.
Originally Posted by DRM08:
KC fans already got 3 Super Bowl rings and 4 conference titles out of Mahomes. You’re still waiting to get those with Josh Allen. When these guys are in their 30’s, the injury stuff will catch up to them. Russell Wilson and Big Ben are good examples of that recently. Father Time is a mean bastard.
Allen is 28, right?
How many of the great QBs in NFL history didn't have a championship before they turned 28? And how many of those EVER won one?
Len Dawson didn't win his first NFL Championship until he was 34 though he DID win the AFL championship with Dallas at 27 in 1962. Staubach didn't start playing until he was 27 but won it within 3 seasons (at age 29).
Tarkenton, Moon, Kelly, Marino never won one at all.
You have Elway, Brees, Manning and Young as guys who didn't win a Super Bowl early in their careers. Brees and Young didn't win until they left the team that drafted them. Elway had at least played in 2 before he turned 28.
So really, the only great to go as long as Allen already has without at least winning the Conference to then eventually win a championship with the team that drafted him was Peyton Manning.
Your list is one. One guy. And that guy won 5 MVPs (including winning in his age 27 season) and was known for his precision passing and the fact that he simply rarely took a clean hit. Josh Allen...isn't known for either of those things. In fact, erratic ball placement and exposing himself to contact are the two things he's best known for.
Time is slipping away from the Bills and they don't even realize it. [Reply]
1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith
He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.
Alright fuck face, lets do this.
1. Reid was recently fired from Philly and was thought of as a HC that was a poor game/clock manager and never ran the ball. It was said that he was a terrible talent evaulator and helped burn Philly's roster to the ground and that he couldn't win shit w/o his retired (fired?) DC.
No one was talking about him as a future HOF. Fuck outta here.
2. Again, no one was calling Kelce a future HOF TE prior to Mahomes. A good one, sure. Top 5, people said. Said he couldn't block. They called him "baby" Gronk. Mahomes put him in the HOF.
3. HOF WR talent? They had a raw, 5th round draft pick names Tyreek Hill. And while he was explosive with Alex, again, NO ONE PAID ATTENTION until Mahomes. No one was calling him a HOF.
4. A Team that hadn't won a playoff game in 50 years and was just laughed off the field by a pathetic Steelers team. Fuck off with that "playoff" shit.
5. Alex Smith never won a playoff game you fucking moron.
6. You're a fucking moron.
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:
1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs
1. One of the most premiere DC/HC's in the league the year he was hired, who also, btw, came from Andy's coaching tree and brought over similar concepts to Buffalo.
2. Maybe your QB should spend more time developing guys around him like our QB does.
3. Your team traded for Diggs who was a premiere WR at the time and much more highly thought of than Tyreek Hill.
4. A team that had made multiple SB runs while the Chiefs were still trying to win a playoff game.
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Alright fuck face, Josh Allen got to play with the #1 Defense in teh NFL for two consecutive seasons and still couldn't beat Mahomes in the playoffs.
Mahomes won a motherfucking SB with the worst WR roster in the league.
Mahomes took his team to another SB on one foot with an obliteterated OL.
Mahomes took his team to the SB in a season in which his fucking knee cap was hanging on the side of his leg.
Mahomes had 13 seconds to win a game and still beat bitch ass Josh Allen and his top ranked defense.
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Last time I checked, Mahomes dislocated his patella in 2019, sidelining him for games, and followed that up with a nasty high ankle sprain in the 2022 season (2023 playoffs). Meanwhile, Allen has had—*checks notes*—NOTHING. Yet all of you endlessly rant about how Allen’s running style is bound to get him injured, and guess what? IT HASN'T. In fact, the only injuries he’s ever had—minor ones, at that—happened while standing in the pocket. But sure, keep waxing poetic and gushing over how Allen’s running will *someday* hurt him. That day, if it ever comes, will be only half as many serious injuries as Mahomes has had not running.
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I can't believe this twat is back. What a loser. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KingDiqLix:
Last time I checked, Mahomes dislocated his patella in 2019, sidelining him for games, and followed that up with a nasty high ankle sprain in the 2022 season (2023 playoffs). Meanwhile, Allen has had—*checks notes*—NOTHING.
Allen fucked his elbow up and dealt with it all season and ya'll bitch ass losers leaned on that excuse hard.
And really, all you're telling me is that Mahomes did more with a busted knee cap than Josh Allen can do completely healthy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
Allen ****ed his elbow up and dealt with it all season and ya'll bitch ass losers leaned on that excuse hard.
And really, all you're telling me is that Mahomes did more with a busted knee cap than Josh Allen can do completely healthy.
Correction: The Chiefs did more than the Bills.
Last time I checked Allen drove the field and then watched as his kicker fucked another playoffs.
There hasn’t been a time when Allen was the one leaving the field in the playoffs having thrown the game losing INT or whatever. It’s ALWAYS his teammates. [Reply]
