This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.
Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.
There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.
Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.
Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.
When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.
The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.
Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.
Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.
The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.
Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.
Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.
Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.
Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived. [Reply]
Spags borrowed heavily from the Tennessee-Baltimore playoff game to stop Lamar. Linebackers dropped deeper and we jammed up the middle of the field where Lamar prefers to throw. Corners told to just not get beat deep, let them have shorter stuff if they wanted it.
Lamar was really frustrated and after the game he mentioned it reminded him of Tennessee. [Reply]
I’ll put it this way, If I had to choose mahomes or Lamar, I’m taking Lamar, mahomes is special, but if the teammates are letting him down Lamar can put the entire team on his back and will us to a win, mahomes still needs the supporting cast more than Lamar needs one, and his supporting cast is the leagues best.
Er..didn't Lamar's teammates let him down less than 24 hours ago? [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Spags borrowed heavily from the Tennessee-Baltimore playoff game to stop Lamar. Linebackers dropped deeper and we jammed up the middle of the field where Lamar prefers to throw. Corners told to just not get beat deep, let them have shorter stuff if they wanted it.
Lamar was really frustrated and after the game he mentioned it reminded him of Tennessee.
Here's a spot where the Chiefs may have one of those "well sure, do it if you have the manpower" advantages that apply to the Chargers/49ers against us.
The Chiefs have MASSIVE defensive linemen. Granted, most teams dudes are big, but guys like Nnadi, Pennell and Jones are just monsters. And Clark's so damn long and has excellent strength to boot. Charlton/K-Pass are also physical specimens in their own right.
You don't necessarily need to be freak athletes or incredible technicians to stifle the Ravens, you just need to be really damn big and fairly patient.
There aren't a ton of teams that can do that.
Oh, and watching the Ravens try to do stuff w/ a 4-person DL while rotating OLBs into the line on occasion yesterday reminded me how much I fucking HATE the 3-4. Hate hate hate hate it.
I am so glad we got rid of Sutton if for no other reason to have moved on from that abomination of a front. It just sets you up for the kind of depth problems that you saw from Baltimore last night.
The Chiefs and their powerful 4-man fronts are a kinda nasty matchup for Baltimore and it's just not something that every team out there can do. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Here's a spot where the Chiefs may have one of those "well sure, do it if you have the manpower" advantages that apply to the Chargers/49ers against us.
The Chiefs have MASSIVE defensive linemen. Granted, most teams dudes are big, but guys like Nnadi, Pennell and Jones are just monsters. And Clark's so damn long and has excellent strength to boot. Charlton/K-Pass are also physical specimens in their own right.
You don't necessarily need to be freak athletes or incredible technicians to stifle the Ravens, you just need to be really damn big and fairly patient.
There aren't a ton of teams that can do that.
Oh, and watching the Ravens try to do stuff w/ a 4-person DL while rotating OLBs into the line on occasion yesterday reminded me how much I ****ing HATE the 3-4. Hate hate hate hate it.
I am so glad we got rid of Sutton if for no other reason to have moved on from that abomination of a front. It just sets you up for the kind of depth problems that you saw from Baltimore last night.
The Chiefs and their powerful 4-man fronts are a kinda nasty matchup for Baltimore and it's just not something that every team out there can do.
For sure. And we borrowed from Tennessee but were even more aggressive than they were in coverage. They needed to blitz to get pressure and we didn't and had better coverage integrity. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Spags borrowed heavily from the Tennessee-Baltimore playoff game to stop Lamar. Linebackers dropped deeper and we jammed up the middle of the field where Lamar prefers to throw. Corners told to just not get beat deep, let them have shorter stuff if they wanted it.
Lamar was really frustrated and after the game he mentioned it reminded him of Tennessee.
I'm glad the Chiefs were able to successfully execute that approach on D. It's what every team should be TRYING to do to the Ravens defensively. Not everyone has the personnel to execute it as well, but it was a beauty to see.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Here's a spot where the Chiefs may have one of those "well sure, do it if you have the manpower" advantages that apply to the Chargers/49ers against us.
The Chiefs have MASSIVE defensive linemen. Granted, most teams dudes are big, but guys like Nnadi, Pennell and Jones are just monsters. And Clark's so damn long and has excellent strength to boot. Charlton/K-Pass are also physical specimens in their own right.
You don't necessarily need to be freak athletes or incredible technicians to stifle the Ravens, you just need to be really damn big and fairly patient.
There aren't a ton of teams that can do that.
Oh, and watching the Ravens try to do stuff w/ a 4-person DL while rotating OLBs into the line on occasion yesterday reminded me how much I ****ing HATE the 3-4. Hate hate hate hate it.
I am so glad we got rid of Sutton if for no other reason to have moved on from that abomination of a front. It just sets you up for the kind of depth problems that you saw from Baltimore last night.
The Chiefs and their powerful 4-man fronts are a kinda nasty matchup for Baltimore and it's just not something that every team out there can do.
Agreed on the 34 defense. I personally hate it. I think you need more specific, harder to find, and more expensive to obtain talent to really make it successful. I think it's also harder to flex away from.
If you're a base 4-man line you can always drop to a 3-man line and use your base strongside DE on the right side and your undertackle type at LE, and make the sub package work. You can stand up your Es if needed to give a different look or move them around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Agreed on the 34 defense. I personally hate it. I think you need more specific, harder to find, and more expensive to obtain talent to really make it successful. I think it's also harder to flex away from.
If you're a base 4-man line you can always drop to a 3-man line and use your base strongside DE on the right side and your undertackle type at LE, and make the sub package work. You can stand up your Es if needed to give a different look or move them around.
The sub package thing is why I hate it the most.
You staff up for a 4-man DL and, as you noted, you can always work into 3-2-6 kind of alignments, etc...
And I guess when you have OLB's like Houston and Ford, you can do something similar by putting either of their hands on the ground. But those guys are Pro-Bowl players.
For the vast majority of placeholder type 3-4 players, they don't have that kind of versatility and it makes it a lot harder for you to roll viable sub-packages without dedicated sub personnel. So now your roster is just one or two players shorter.
But even as a base unit, I just hate it. It's too cute by half. [Reply]
