Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Man, give me anyone but Leggette. That is SUCH a boom or bust pick that he terrifies me, and we can't afford to whiff on a WR in the first round.
of course, if we DON'T take him, he'll be DK Metcalf. And he might. He really might.
But he was a 6'4", 225 pound Skyy Moore for FOUR YEARS in college before suddenly deciding to do a Megatron impression in year 5.
That gives me the heebie-jeebies.
Yeah you just know he'll be the "what if" if we pass on him and a dud if we pick him. Was just looking at Franklin. Looks like he has a 10% drop rate, which also worries me a little. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The Chiefs couldn't trade up last year because they picked so late. Honestly I wouldn't be mad at all if we got bounced in the WC and picked between 21-23 so we can get a better player and if we could trade up it would be into the top 20.
That 4th WR this year in the draft is still gonna be really good
I know what you mean. I just really can't get past picking 2 WRs, getting Tyron Smith for LT in FA and a middling WR in FA. Honestly think that gives us the best outcome of guarantees and risks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You've got to wonder if Andy and Veach look at Worthy and see Tyreek Hill.
I've just been casually looking at this class, and there are like ten that I like, including some guys that are maybe more like 2nd and 3rd round guys that I think may have been first rounders in the '23 class.
And then there's Jerry Rice's kid, and I can't figure out why he's a 3rd round prospect but I haven't watched a lot of him. Maybe it's there on tape.
I look at him and see Zay Flowers.
It's a very stacked class.
I agree on Legette. I can blame some of his lack of production on having bad QBs, horrible coaches with bad offensive systems, and a few upper classmen who also will play in the league (Juice Wells, Jaheim Bell).
This year was the first year he was the alpha guy with a decent or better QB.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You've got to wonder if Andy and Veach look at Worthy and see Tyreek Hill.
Worthy looks more like Devonta smith to me but he doesn’t have that level of college production. His hands were better this year but worthy doesnt have the hands of smith. He broke his hand last year and his hands were better this year but still a concern. Worthy and Devonta are about the same size. Worthy is A LOT faster than smith, which provides a really high ceiling for him. [Reply]
Nice podcast here about the top 15 or so WRs in the upcoming draft.
They highlight an interesting statistic that I'm sure Veach and Reid pay attention to in combined separation % against man and zone coverage. Pretty clear we prefer separators over jump ball specialists.
Originally Posted by O.city:
The more you really dig in….how many legit first round guys are in this class?
4?
Clear top 5:
Harrison
Clear top 15:
Nabers
Clear 1sts:
Odunze
Egbuka
Could-be 1sts
Coleman
Franklin
Mitchell
Worthy
Legette (I see a lot more Treylon Burks than Metcalf, personally, but he probably is going to do stupid things at the combine)
I suspect the number will land at 6 or something like that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Clear top 5:
Harrison
Clear top 15:
Nabers
Clear 1sts:
Odunze
Egbuka
Could-be 1sts
Coleman
Franklin
Mitchell
Worthy
Legette (I see a lot more Treylon Burks than Metcalf, personally, but he probably is going to do stupid things at the combine)
I suspect the number will land at 6 or something like that.
I might put Thomas in that could-be-first group. [Reply]
Nice podcast here about the top 15 or so WRs in the upcoming draft.
They highlight an interesting statistic that I'm sure Veach and Reid pay attention to in combined separation % against man and zone coverage. Pretty clear we prefer separators over jump ball specialists.
Also noting they have Dez Walker and Ladd Mcconkey top 10 above Egbuka, and Brian Thomas Jr and Franklyn top 5.
Came away wanting Thomas, Franklyn, or Egbuka. Intrigued by Walker and Mcconkey as well.
My god, these guys learned NOTHING from Skyy Moore, did they?
Go listen to the Ladd McConkey love-fest. It's EXACTLY what people did with Skyy Moore. "Oh sure, he's small, he's not terribly fast, but he just gets open. I mean yeah, lots of false steps in his releases but who really cares about false steps when your feet are that quick?"
They have the guy as the 6th overall receiver. I wouldn't even look at him before the mid-3rd.
No friggen way. Traits traits traits traits, fellas. You really do not want to be using a 2nd day pick on a guy who simply lacks standout physical traits. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
My god, these guys learned NOTHING from Skyy Moore, did they?
Go listen to the Ladd McConkey love-fest. It's EXACTLY what people did with Skyy Moore. "Oh sure, he's small, he's not terribly fast, but he just gets open. I mean yeah, lots of false steps in his releases but who really cares about false steps when your feet are that quick?"
They have the guy as the 6th overall receiver. I wouldn't even look at him before the mid-3rd.
No friggen way. Traits traits traits traits, fellas. You really do not want to be using a 2nd day pick on a guy who simply lacks standout physical traits.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
My god, these guys learned NOTHING from Skyy Moore, did they?
Go listen to the Ladd McConkey love-fest. It's EXACTLY what people did with Skyy Moore. "Oh sure, he's small, he's not terribly fast, but he just gets open. I mean yeah, lots of false steps in his releases but who really cares about false steps when your feet are that quick?"
They have the guy as the 6th overall receiver. I wouldn't even look at him before the mid-3rd.
No friggen way. Traits traits traits traits, fellas. You really do not want to be using a 2nd day pick on a guy who simply lacks standout physical traits.
McConkey is Renfrow 2.0. Great if you allow him time to lose a guy, but absolutely not going to work as a guy you NEED at X spot at Y time. He could work, but not for us. [Reply]