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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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BlackOp 09:51 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
This is one of those "it's real because I said it on the internet" moments...poor sap cant even come to terms that they have been swept by the Raiders two years in a row....let alone 13 times by KC. That's a current 17 game losing streak if you combined them...that's a new level of suck.

The only reason you had seven wins...was because you began the season against two rookie QBs in their first starts. Should have been 5-11 like the year before... shit, seven wins was the best record your team has had in 5 years.

Your all-star roster cant even produce a .500 record playing a last place schedule.
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:10 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
KC's WR group is an unknown. At worst, it will likely be decent. At best, it could be very solid (if Moore and/or Ross can contribute right away). A lot of people are predicting big things for Smith-Schuster in KC's offense. He's not catching balls from Roethlisberger's corpse or Rudolph anymore. Factoring in Kelce, KC's receiving weapons will be better than Denver's.

Your RBs are not significantly better than KC's. Ha. In fact, their YPC are worse than Jones and CEH. And will likely continue to be given KC's superior line.

KC has a lot of new faces in the secondary and DL. They can't be rated yet. It's probably a safe bet that Simmons will be the best safety between the two teams, but there's no reason to think there will be a significant advantage in the secondary overall. No one's scared of your DL. Based on last year's performance, you've got a bunch of JAGs. One thing's for sure...none of them are anywhere near Chris Jones's level.

Reid is one of the best gameplanners the league has ever seen. Nitpicking a few moments of poor clock management and the like is desperate at best. Odds are, he'll coach circles around your rookie coach.
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Quesadilla Joe 10:17 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Sutton and Juju are pretty much the same guy.
Not even close. If they were, JuJu would've signed a big deal on the open market instead of the 1 year deal with $2.5M guaranteed. Teams would've been all over Courtland Sutton had he reached the open market.

Patrick, Jeudy, and Hamler blow MVS, Hardman (lol), and your rookie out of the water.


Originally Posted by RunKC:
Denver’s best DL last year were Shelby Harris and Von Miller who are both gone :-) nobody on your DL is close to Chris Jones. Just stop that hilarity
You guys have Chris Jones and a bunch of garbage. The Frank Clark trade and contract was one of the worst deals any GM made over the last 5 years. Denver goes 6 deep at EDGE and they have guys like Dre'Mont Jones, DJ Jones, Mike Purcell and Uwazurike (who I know you are quite fond of) on the inside.



Originally Posted by RunKC:
The Chiefs OL as a whole is better than Denver’s. That’s not really debatable. Top 5 in fewest sacks allowed.
Your starting interior OL is probably the best in football, but Denver has you beat everywhere else, including OL depth.
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BlackOp 10:21 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Denver has you beat everywhere else, including OL depth.
What exactly does the depth of a 27th ranked pass-protecting OL look like? Do you mean they will be equally as terrible if one of the starters get hurt...and that nobody would even notice?

Congratulations?
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:22 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Your all-star roster cant even produce a .500 record playing a last place schedule.
:-)

Their schedule has a plethora of scrubs every season, and is always front-loaded with bad opponents, and they still can't sniff .500.

You'd think they'd shut up after a 0 Pro Bowl year. Not these guys. They double down.
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BlackOp 10:38 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
:-)

Their schedule has a plethora of scrubs every season, and is always front-loaded with bad opponents, and they still can't sniff .500.

You'd think they'd shut up after a 0 Pro Bowl year. Not these guys. They double down.
4 of their first 8 games are against last place teams this year...I think I read KC's first 8-9 games are against winning teams. The first time in history this has happened..

NFL knows what it's doing...have to keep the fans of dreg teams hopeful and engaged as long as possible.

The media will pimp them as a contender until they start playing real teams...just like last year.
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Coochie liquor 10:40 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Not even close. If they were, JuJu would've signed a big deal on the open market instead of the 1 year deal with $2.5M guaranteed. Teams would've been all over Courtland Sutton had he reached the open market.

Patrick, Jeudy, and Hamler blow MVS, Hardman (lol), and your rookie out of the water.




You guys have Chris Jones and a bunch of garbage. The Frank Clark trade and contract was one of the worst deals any GM made over the last 5 years. Denver goes 6 deep at EDGE and they have guys like Dre'Mont Jones, DJ Jones, Mike Purcell and Uwazurike (who I know you are quite fond of) on the inside.





Your starting interior OL is probably the best in football, but Denver has you beat everywhere else, including OL depth.
Omg, BlackOps is right.... and you’re flailing around Knowshit.

Bowles (lol)- 76.6
Risner- 68.4
Chushionbelly- 64
Meinerz- 67.4
Massie- 71

Those are your starters. So what’s your depth look like? 51, 48, 33? That’s not the kind of depth you should be bragging about. Bottom third OL with starters. :-):-)
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Garcia Bronco 10:40 AM 06-02-2022
oy veh...we play all the same teams the Chiefs do expect for 3 teams and the only reason it's 3 is they added another reg game. Prior to...it was two teams. It's a difference, but is it significant? Maybe...maybe not. it depends.
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Coochie liquor 10:42 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
oy veh...we play all the same teams the Chiefs do expect for 3 teams and the only reason it's 3 is they added another reg game. Prior to...it was two teams. It's a difference, but is it significant? Maybe...maybe not. it depends.
Who’s gonna finish with a better record?
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:48 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Not even close. If they were, JuJu would've signed a big deal on the open market instead of the 1 year deal with $2.5M guaranteed. Teams would've been all over Courtland Sutton had he reached the open market.

Patrick, Jeudy, and Hamler blow MVS, Hardman (lol), and your rookie out of the water.




You guys have Chris Jones and a bunch of garbage. The Frank Clark trade and contract was one of the worst deals any GM made over the last 5 years. Denver goes 6 deep at EDGE and they have guys like Dre'Mont Jones, DJ Jones, Mike Purcell and Uwazurike (who I know you are quite fond of) on the inside.





Your starting interior OL is probably the best in football, but Denver has you beat everywhere else, including OL depth.
I love it.

Beating your chest over a WR corps that doesn't put up numbers, doesn't win, doesn't go to the Pro Bowl, and includes overhyped first rounders who drop everything that hits their hands. :-)

Btw, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Smith-Schuster's injury prevented him from getting a bigger deal. His best year is far better than Sutton's best year, and he put up those numbers while sharing targets with Antonio Brown in his prime. Now that he's with Reid and Mahomes, you can probably expect numbers closer to that than what he's done over the last few years.
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BlackOp 10:49 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
oy veh...we play all the same teams the Chiefs do expect for 3 teams and the only reason it's 3 is they added another reg game. Prior to...it was two teams. It's a difference, but is it significant? Maybe...maybe not. it depends.
It where they schedule them...they dont want the Doinks out of contention with 7 games to go.

It's why you dont play KC until week 14...that wasn't an accident.

I would guess with Wilson...the NFL is going to keep you guys afloat. So expect some calls this year in your favor...at least early on.
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:51 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
oy veh...we play all the same teams the Chiefs do expect for 3 teams and the only reason it's 3 is they added another reg game. Prior to...it was two teams. It's a difference, but is it significant? Maybe...maybe not. it depends.
So you're saying there isn't a significant difference between 10-7 and 7-10?
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staylor26 11:19 AM 06-02-2022
Love how KnowMo just says stupid shit and disappears these days.

He used to go back and forth non-stop.

He’s clearly broken and a shell of his former self.
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RunKC 11:27 AM 06-02-2022
Interestingly enough 4 of the Broncos 7 wins last year were against the Jags, Giants, Lions and Jets.

All among the 5 worst teams in the league last year :-)
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Garcia Bronco 11:32 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Who’s gonna finish with a better record?
Probably the Chiefs. Cemented program, great QB, good/excellent adjustments, and game plans.
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