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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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tredadda 07:23 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
That third comparison can’t be right.

You’re missing all the Donkos Pro Bowlers and All Pros. Just ask KnowMo. Their roster is elite!
Top 5 roster……..again. How many years in a row is it now?
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Bowser 07:26 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
That third comparison can’t be right.

You’re missing all the Donkos Pro Bowlers and All Pros. Just ask KnowMo. Their roster is elite!
Talk like this is going to piss off Charger Fans!
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tredadda 07:26 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
This is the real collateral damage from the Wilson deal...heading into the 2023 season.

Chiefs
Mahomes + three 1st round picks & four 2nd picks...providing the financial flexibility to navigate FA with a top QB salary.

Donks
Wilson and introducing a $40+ million a year hit...watching their main rival add 7 top (cheap) picks before they choose.
? Not understanding where you are getting these Chiefs picks from.
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Coochie liquor 07:36 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by tredadda:
? Not understanding where you are getting these Chiefs picks from.
Think he meant 2022 and 2023 drafts.
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BlackOp 07:57 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
The cheapest part of Mahomes' deal is over with. In fact, Mahomes is going to count $82.5M on your cap over the next two years while Russ will only count $51M on our cap over the next two years. Any extension that Russ signs in Denver will be tacked on to his current contract, and will most likely be backloaded so Russ will still count less than Mahomes will on the cap for at least the next 4 years.

It's a good thing you guys have so many picks over the next few years. You guys need them, desperately. Too bad KC's roster is riddled with holes and they still won't have enough picks to address them all.
Wilson is NOT playing on that outdated deal next year...he has the Donks over a barrel.

Speaking of a roster "littered with holes"....your team had 0 pro-bowlers and the 27th ranked pass protecting OL. Going to have to make a decision on paying Chubb...no worries, you can replace him with your first pick next year...in the 3rd round.
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Coochie liquor 07:59 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Wilson is NOT playing on that outdated deal next year...he has the Donks over a barrel.
C’mon, if Flaccid was still in his prime, then WilsINT is basically a rookie!! :-)
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BlackOp 08:05 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
C’mon, if Flaccid was still in his prime, then WilsINT is basically a rookie!! :-)
They cant really string out his deal either...he'll be 34. It'll be fully guaranteed with no way to push the hit forward.
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RealSNR 08:56 PM 06-01-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Even with Mahomes cap number the Chiefs still have more cap room than Denver in 2023 :-)

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/



The Broncos don’t have a top tier player on their roster except the strong possibility of Patrick Surtain. Add to that fact Chubb and Jeudy have been massive busts so far.

So headcount here:

Coaching-KC
QB-KC
More top tier players-KC
Cap space-KC
Early draft picks-KC

What did I miss here?
Knowmo: "KJ Hamler is an elite WR who just had some bad injury luck"
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FlaChief58 06:32 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
The Bills sold for $1.4 billion. The Panthers for a record $2.2 billion.

The Broncos?

Some people have more money than sense
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Quesadilla Joe 07:28 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Even with Mahomes cap number the Chiefs still have more cap room than Denver in 2023 :-)

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/



The Broncos don’t have a top tier player on their roster except the strong possibility of Patrick Surtain. Add to that fact Chubb and Jeudy have been massive busts so far.

So headcount here:

Coaching-KC
QB-KC
More top tier players-KC
Cap space-KC
Early draft picks-KC

What did I miss here?
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
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FlaChief58 08:08 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
Kinda early to be smokin crack isn't it little fella?
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RealSNR 08:28 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
Your coach is the son of an overemployed shitty offensive coordinator, and his only career accomplishment is hanging around Aaron Rodgers.

Don't even start with coach comparisons.
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RunKC 08:32 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
KC only has a significant edge over Denver at IOL and #1 TE.

Denver's WR's are >>>> KC's
Denver's DL >>>>> KC's
Denver's Secondary >>>>> KC's
Denver's RB's >>>>> KC's
This is by an extremely wide margin. KC is in the bottom third of the league at these spots, while Denver is loaded for bear.

And while Andy Reid is a great leader and schemer, he has been a notoriously bad game day coach at times. It's not just clock management issues either, he has always had a reputation for completely abandoning the run.
KC and Denver’s receivers are pretty much the exact same. Sutton and Juju are pretty much the same guy. 2nd rd pick, 1 good year, injured and bad QB. Hamler and Hardman have been extremely similar players too.
Jeudy has been a drop fest. Like Chubb he’s potential unrealized.

Denver’s best DL last year were Shelby Harris and Von Miller who are both gone :-) nobody on your DL is close to Chris Jones. Just stop that hilarity

Denver does have a better secondary and RB’s right now but the Chiefs just added a quality FA, 1st and 2nd rd pick to the team so it’s currently an unknown.

The Chiefs OL as a whole is better than Denver’s. That’s not really debatable. Top 5 in fewest sacks allowed.

Oh and Andy Reid has beaten your team 13 in a row. Yes your team has been shitty but at least the Raiders beat us a few times with their dumpster fire.

You’re not out coaching him
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Rainbarrel 08:54 AM 06-02-2022
The Broncos are becoming like the Pat's Bills. The Jets and Fins got some licks in
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RaidersOftheCellar 09:22 AM 06-02-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
The cheapest part of Mahomes' deal is over with. In fact, Mahomes is going to count $82.5M on your cap over the next two years while Russ will only count $51M on our cap over the next two years. Any extension that Russ signs in Denver will be tacked on to his current contract, and will most likely be backloaded so Russ will still count less than Mahomes will on the cap for at least the next 4 years.

It's a good thing you guys have so many picks over the next few years. You guys need them, desperately. Too bad KC's roster is riddled with holes and they still won't have enough picks to address them all.
Every QB that's joined your "elite" roster has looked worse than at the previous stop (or, in Lock's case, worse than projected). Wilson will be no different. And he already hasn't been anywhere near elite for a season and a half.

Like Black Op said, your past his prime QB is going to rape you next year.

And the hilarity of "you guys need them desperately" is too much. Yes, a team that played in 4 straight AFC title games and 2 SBs (and underachieved) is riddled with holes and in desperate need of picks. While your 0 Pro Bowler roster is just loaded with talent and depth. You clowns never cease to amuse...:-)

If KC had gaping holes before, they certainly don't after adding a plethora of early round picks.
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