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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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TEX 05:48 PM 05-04-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Too bad our two best rushers only played 5 games together over the last 3 seasons.
Excuses are for LOSERS, so I get why you have many...
What"s funny as hell is you drafted broke dick Chubb, instead of Josh Allen, and you let Barrett walk..
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staylor26 06:04 PM 05-04-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
He can still be a good player, but 99.9% of the WR's he'll be covering are going to have a significant length advantage. A 5'10'', short-armed CB is going to naturally give up plays that a longer corner wouldn't in certain situations.
He’s 5’10” 3/4. Basically 5’11”. His height is fine.
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Chieftain 06:06 PM 05-04-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
He can still be a good player, but 99.9% of the WR's he'll be covering are going to have a significant length advantage. A 5'10'', short-armed CB is going to naturally give up plays that a longer corner wouldn't in certain situations.
I mean, isn't that what he faced in college where he dominated?
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RealSNR 07:54 PM 05-04-2022
WTF does arm length have to do with CB success? Who the fuck cares?
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RaidersOftheCellar 10:07 AM 05-05-2022
He's literally the height of the average CB, and all these clowns talk about is how short he is.

Worry more about your QB who can't see over the line. :-)
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Pablo 10:18 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
He's literally the height of the average CB, and all these clowns talk about is how short he is.

Worry more about your QB who can't see over the line. :-)
How tall is Russ anyhow? 5-9? Same size and skillset as Booker Mayfield essentially
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RealSNR 10:35 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Pablo:
How tall is Russ anyhow? 5-9? Same size and skillset as Booker Mayfield essentially
And he's got some short ass arms.
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Best22 11:12 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
He can still be a good player, but 99.9% of the WR's he'll be covering are going to have a significant length advantage. A 5'10'', short-armed CB is going to naturally give up plays that a longer corner wouldn't in certain situations.
McDuffie is the same size as Chris Harris Jr
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:14 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Pablo:
How tall is Russ anyhow? 5-9? Same size and skillset as Booker Mayfield essentially
He's listed at the same height as our "midget" corner and his actual height is probably lower. :-)
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ThaVirus 11:16 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Lots of Kelce comps for Dulcich RN:

Kelce/Dulcich:

Height: 6'5"/6'4"
Arm: 33.75"/33.375"
Hand: 9.625"/9.875"
40: 4.61/4.69
10 yd: 1.61/1.63
20 yd: 2.72/2.67
20 yd SS: 4.42/4.37
3 Cone: 7.09/7.05
Broad: 124in/122in
VJ: 35in/34in
So he's a smaller, slower, less explosive version of Kelce?

Kelce's athleticism is underrated, but it isn't even what makes him great.
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Quesadilla Joe 11:40 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Best22:
McDuffie is the same size as Chris Harris Jr
CHJ had 33 1/2'' arms.

How many times did you see CHJ in super tight coverage batting a short throw away? That was what he was best at. A lot of those PBU's don't happen if his arms are 4'' shorter.
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RunKC 11:48 AM 05-05-2022
McDuffie is almost 2 inches taller than Chris Harris Jr and his vertical was 4.5 inches higher too :-)
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MagicHef 11:51 AM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
CHJ had 33 1/2'' arms.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS ARMS
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RunKC 07:47 PM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The problem with Bonitto is he isn’t Dee Ford. Dee was a lot stronger. He benched 29 reps with longer arms while Bonitto did 22. He’s also a very undersized backer according to his scouting report his hands are not heavy either. So he seems about maxed about as in he won’t get bigger. I think that’s why he won’t be that strong compared to NFL OL.

He’s gonna have a rough time unless he’s rushing on obvious passing downs IMO. But even then you put him against Brown Jr or Kinnard for example. He stands no chance bullrushing either. He’s not pushing either into Patrick’s lap. He just isn’t winning that. And everyone knows it.

So basically his best option is the speed rush. But bigger tackles like ours know that’s his best shot and will be ready to kick step immediately. Even then Bonitto’s short arms will be going against guys with 35+ inch vines forcing a longer route to the QB. His hands don’t appear strong enough to win that leverage battle either.

He could get some coverage sacks though
Damn this is exactly what scouts said about the kid:

Originally Posted by :
Nik Bonitto (Oklahoma)
I’m having a really hard time working him out because the size is better than expected, the length is a concern, the production amazing and the testing good. But he wins by starting in a very wide position then racing to the QB — thus he never really engages and at the next level you wonder if he’ll just be absorbed given he’ll need to make contact a lot more often than he did in college.

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RealSNR 08:04 PM 05-05-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
CHJ had 33 1/2'' arms.

How many times did you see CHJ in super tight coverage batting a short throw away? That was what he was best at. A lot of those PBU's don't happen if his arms are 4'' shorter.
Arm length on a CB matters about as much as dick length on a punter.
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