Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
He'll be a living legend at 29 for sure.
The thing that sucks is he'll always have the 0-2 postseason record with Brady held over his head. Even if he gets to 7 rings. I've kinda made peace with that. He'll never have unanimous GOAT recognition, but he'll always be the MJ of this era, the one who catapulted the Chiefs from eternal mediocrity into the upper class of NFL franchises. He's our savior.
Anyone that leans on the 0-2 thing is either an imbecile or a troll. Mahomes wins tomorrow and he's Jordan. Full stop. If he also gets to seven or more rings he's just lapping the field. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Brady beat Mahomes’s most vulnerable teams in the postseason.
Mahomes also won 2 Lombardis with Brady still in the League.
While Mahomes was good enough to drag his most vulnerable teams to a collision course with Brady, Brady wasn’t good enough to drag his vulnerable teams to a collision course with Mahomes.
Why is it a positive for Brady that he got bounced in the playoffs early when Mahomes had his best teams?
I agree with you. I'd rather we had won those games against Brady, but I would have no problem arguing that Mahomes is the GOAT over Brady as Patrick approaches Brady's records. [Reply]
Meh, it was a very young Mahomes vs an old vet Brady, of course Brady had the upper hand.... he's learned a ton since then and no longer has postseason jitters. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
He'll be a living legend at 29 for sure.
The thing that sucks is he'll always have the 0-2 postseason record with Brady held over his head. Even if he gets to 7 rings. I've kinda made peace with that. He'll never have unanimous GOAT recognition, but he'll always be the MJ of this era, the one who catapulted the Chiefs from eternal mediocrity into the upper class of NFL franchises. He's our savior.
And Michael never beat the Pistons.
Fucking miss me with that shit if that’s the argument somebody makes for him not being the goat [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Let’s see Brady take Mahomes to OT with a goddamn Bob Sutton defense and a secondary with Orlando Scandrick.
Little bitch would melt
Let’s see Brady behind Mike Remmers, Allegretti as a youngster, Reiter, Wisniewski off the couch, and Wylie against the Tampa defense from 2020. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kysirsoze:
Anyone that leans on the 0-2 thing is either an imbecile or a troll. Mahomes wins tomorrow and he's Jordan. Full stop. If he also gets to seven or more rings he's just lapping the field.
I'm just saying guys, this is sort of thing you're gonna hear over and over and OVER again from Mahomes detractors when it comes to the GOAT conversation. That's why I don't think he'll ever unanimously be considered better than Tom. But I hate those kinds of conversations anyway because I've seen it play out with Lebron vs MJ. People will get entrenched in their views about who they like the most and there's nothing you can do to change it. So I stay out of that stuff. I'm content with what Mahomes is right now, I could care less what the Brady fanboys think of him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Except that all of these kids trying to do Mahomes things are all going to fail, because they're not him.
I think we're going to see a bunch of THAT for a long time.
No, for most people (almost EVERYONE), Brees is what they SHOULD be emulating.
Look at the kid starting for Nebraska right now for an example.
I think there are no shortage of QBs either up and coming or already established that are just as athletic as Mahomes with the arm, or even more so. But the thing they don't possess is Mahomes' insane football IQ, and I feel that is what Brees is talking about specifically, especially when he speaks on how Mahomes creates his own rhythm. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
I'm just saying guys, this is sort of thing you're gonna hear over and over and OVER again from Mahomes detractors when it comes to the GOAT conversation. That's why I don't think he'll ever unanimously be considered better than Tom. But I hate those kinds of conversations anyway because I've seen it play out with Lebron vs MJ. People will get entrenched in their views about who they like the most and there's nothing you can do to change it. So I stay out of that stuff. I'm content with what Mahomes is right now, I could care less what the Brady fanboys think of him.
I don't care about the Brady comparisons. Mahomes is a very long way from reaching that level. He's too young to be compared with a guy that won 7 rings and played at super high level to age 45. It's a long, long way to go. Who knows what might happen in the future with injuries & aging, etc.
I'm glad to see Brady and other New England players showing support for Mahomes & the Chiefs. It's a lonely world at the top of the mountain. It feels like 99% of the world is rooting against the Chiefs. The Patriot guys know how it feels to be in that spot.
I just want Mahomes to keep winning and shut up the people who insist he's an average (or worse) QB or whatever. So much bullshit flying around, so very little credit given to him by millions of people out there. It's a bizarre world we are living in. I don't remember Michael Jordan being treated like that in the 1990's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I don't care about the Brady comparisons. Mahomes is a very long way from reaching that level. He's too young to be compared with a guy that won 7 rings and played at super high level to age 45. It's a long, long way to go.
He wins the SB over 50% of the seasons he starts.
He's been to the AFCCG every season he's played and didn't have a top 15 defense until two years ago.
Brady game managed a top defense for 5 years and tagged along. His growth was slow and over a prolonged period. Brady even admitted it was the 10 year gap between SB's that made him become the preparation maniac we now know him as - he was not naturally that guy.
Mahomes left the draft that guy. Brady needed D Ford to beat Mahomes in Pat's first year. He is already the greatest come from behind QB in post season history. Pat has more come backs down 10 in the playoffs than any QB in history.
Pat will have the first 3peat and 4straight SB run in history.
He will fucking lap Brady. Pat was built in a lab with every single attribute you'd want a top QB to have. There is no ability that's desired in a QB that Pat lacks - and most qualities he's either tops or in the top of the NFL.
Pat is already the greatest QB to ever play - it's only a matter of when it was you first realized it and how long it took you to see it. [Reply]