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KcMizzou 08:18 PM 07-08-2010
Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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alnorth 08:03 AM 03-04-2015
What is really annoying to me about this whole Cyborg thing is that I don't think it would be a particularly close fight, especially at 135. She punches hard with the help of PED's. OK, whatever, we've seen no indication at all that she would avoid getting thrown or taken down and then submitted. Right now, she's beating up on undersized opponents who should be bantamweights, while Cyborg is on the very large end of 145. Her only chance against Rousey would be landing some wild unlikely shot before the clinch. I don't think the fight "needs to happen".

If the fight did happen though, it would be nice if so many idiots bet on Cyborg that we got good odds on Rousey.
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WhawhaWhat 03:40 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by alnorth:
What is really annoying to me about this whole Cyborg thing is that I don't think it would be a particularly close fight, especially at 135. She punches hard with the help of PED's. OK, whatever, we've seen no indication at all that she would avoid getting thrown or taken down and then submitted. Right now, she's beating up on undersized opponents who should be bantamweights, while Cyborg is on the very large end of 145. Her only chance against Rousey would be landing some wild unlikely shot before the clinch. I don't think the fight "needs to happen".

If the fight did happen though, it would be nice if so many idiots bet on Cyborg that we got good odds on Rousey.
Cyborg is a name that people know and it's the money fight, which is why it needs to happen. Of course in the fight game, that means that sometimes it doesn't happen if promoters don't want to take a chance at killing their goose. Ronda will end up fighting Holly Holm in October or something and beat her in 90 secs.
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Bufkin 03:46 PM 03-04-2015
Rousey would need a body bag after 2 rounds with Cyborg. Come on alnorth!
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BigCatDaddy 04:00 PM 03-04-2015
I bet Rousey makes a shit ton more doing movies than the UFC pays her.
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alnorth 04:33 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I bet Rousey makes a shit ton more doing movies than the UFC pays her.
If Mile 22 is successful and she starts getting paid big money to play leading roles in action movies, then she'll probably retire as an undefeated champion. She'd be crazy to keep fighting once it is established that she has an opportunity to make millions in Hollywood.

She's not there yet though, if the movie bombs then she'll just get small roles.
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alnorth 06:28 PM 03-04-2015
Early estimates for the PPV, which aside from Rousey was a decimated crappy card, are about 650k-700k buys.

Holy shit. That is insane.

I think we can put that whole "Rousey isn't a draw, no one likes women's MMA" thing to bed.

edit: Rousey is reportedly going to get about an extra $1MM because of the PPV buys.
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Jerm 06:39 PM 03-04-2015
How much of that is before they cancelled Weidman/Belfort?

Just saying...
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alnorth 06:41 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jerm:
How much of that is before they cancelled Weidman/Belfort?

Just saying...
Uhhh.... Almost zero.

These are PPV buys, not ticket sales. Almost all PPV buys are purchased day of, and what little that isn't day of is week of. I'm not even sure if you could order the PPV when the card lost Weidman.

Some people had been pointing at Weidman as the reason for selling out Staples, but the PPV buys are harder to explain away.
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Jerm 06:45 PM 03-04-2015
My mistake, thought it was ticket sales.

Where did those numbers come from?
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alnorth 06:58 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jerm:
My mistake, thought it was ticket sales.

Where did those numbers come from?
Wrestling observer.

Also, the peripheral numbers were very good. For ratings the 184 prelims were the 3rd-highest in the FS1 era. 222,000 people watched the Friday weigh-in which is the 2nd-highest for a FS1 UFC weigh-in trailing only the 168 weigh-in.
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Jerm 07:02 PM 03-04-2015
There wasn't even a particular "must see" fight on the prelims was there...? Crazy.
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jd1020 07:14 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
Ronda will end up fighting Holly Holm in October or something and beat her in 90 secs.
Wouldn't be shocked if Holm never has the chance to fight Ronda. I was definitely not impressed. Doubt she makes it past Meisha.
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Katipan 07:19 PM 03-04-2015
Holm is far off.

Originally Posted by :
“Look, a lot of hype came in around Holly. What people have to understand is, for Holly, this is her first time here. It’s her first time in the UFC. I talked to her about this tonight, too. … I don’t care how many titles you’ve won and how many places you’ve fought. You come in here, and it’s a completely different ballgame. You burn a ton of nervous energy. You dump some adrenaline. She went in there tonight and performed. She slid right into the co-main-event position, and she did a great job.”

“Let’s let her get a couple fights and start to feel like the UFC is her house and home, and move up in the rankings and get some fights. She’s got some time to get there.”

Holm agreed with White’s comments, and said:

“I’d like to get my feet wet, and I finally got this first UFC fight over with. I never pick a fight. I leave that up to my manager and trainer.”
http://www.bjpenn.com/rousey-vs-holm...ite-says-fast/
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BigCatDaddy 07:29 PM 03-04-2015
With GSP and Silva done she might be the biggest star in MMA.
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jd1020 07:33 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
With GSP and Silva done she might be the biggest star in MMA.
Maybe in the mainstream, but definitely not in the UFC circle.
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