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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Saul Good 04:25 PM 10-10-2011
There's a 45 page report bouncing around in AP articles that says the SEC move could be worth $12 million a year to Mizzou above the Big XII.
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mnchiefsguy 04:35 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
There's a 45 page report bouncing around in AP articles that says the SEC move could be worth $12 million a year to Mizzou above the Big XII.
I have to admit, my first thought on reading that news story was...well, duh. It seems to me to be a no-brainer that the SEC would have more revenue and more potential revenue growth that any other conference, given their rabid football following.
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kstater 04:42 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
There's a 45 page report bouncing around in AP articles that says the SEC move could be worth $12 million a year to Mizzou above the Big XII.
I think those numbers are interesting(i.e. not based in reality)

Originally Posted by :
Even then, if using the same duration of contract (15 years), and adding two teams, you'd have to increase the payout by approximately $150 million a year between Tier 1 and Tier 2.

To put how hard that is into perspective, it would take increasing their CBS Tier 1 deal from $825 million to $1.2 billion (over the fifteen year life of the contract), and their Tier 2 deal from $2.25 billion to $4.1 billion over that same time span.

My guess is that the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri wouldn't be worth an additional $2.225 billion over the life of the contract, but obviously, I've been devaluing the potential revenue generation of Texas A&M and Missouri over the years (since they haven't rained down that kind of cash on us).

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notorious 04:44 PM 10-10-2011
The real question:


Is Mizzou worth enough for the SEC to want them?
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Shogun 05:26 PM 10-10-2011
TCU = accepts
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Setsuna 05:35 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
Bullshit, he's giving birth to a cheeseburger.
He's got a hernia. He needs to get that fixed or he'll die.
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Al Bundy 05:36 PM 10-10-2011
Did KK lose his mind today?
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mnchiefsguy 05:37 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
Did KK lose his mind today?
I did not listen either. I am sure he probably had another good anti-Mizzou rant. Anyone got details?
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Mr. Laz 05:59 PM 10-10-2011
610SportsKC 610 Sports Radio- KC
TCU has officially accepted an invitation to the Big 12 Conference. Hear the press conference LIVE right now on... fb.me/K5F58Xol
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Bambi 06:00 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Laz:
610SportsKC 610 Sports Radio- KC
TCU has officially accepted an invitation to the Big 12 Conference. Hear the press conference LIVE right now on... fb.me/K5F58Xol
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sweet. Great football pick up
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BillSelfsTrophycase 06:03 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
I did not listen either. I am sure he probably had another good anti-Mizzou rant. Anyone got details?
He was talking about inviting Missouri State into the Big 12 as a F.U. to Mizzou

I shit you not
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Bambi 06:14 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Carls20yearplan:
He was talking about inviting Missouri State into the Big 12 as a F.U. to Mizzou

I shit you not
That was pretty good.

He really had a plan too. 25,000 students... Already many other "state" schools in the Big 12. That area is a much faster growing part of Missouri than Columbia...etc
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Saul Good 07:03 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
That was pretty good.

He really had a plan too. 25,000 students... Already many other "state" schools in the Big 12. That area is a much faster growing part of Missouri than Columbia...etc
It was genious. Take a school that is 0-6 in FCS with an empty stadium that seats 16,000, and put them into a BCS conference just to piss off Jay Nixon even though having two teams in BCS conferences in the state would be a huge coup for Nixon.
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WilliamTheIrish 07:05 PM 10-10-2011
The man just owns this town.
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Saul Good 07:07 PM 10-10-2011
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
The man just owns this town.
His ratings are in a free-fall. His only competition is Nick Wright, a complete dipshit, and Wright has pulled even in the ratings.
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