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RunKC 08:33 AM 02-25-2025
Have said many times that I feared this would happen

"Kansas City is making it a priority to try to keep Trey Smith.

... long term deal. Making every effort."@DMRussini https://t.co/webgjLp2Sq

— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) February 25, 2025

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staylor26 11:10 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That account has gotten a lot of shit wrong in the past week.

Namely saying Godwin was signing a deal with Tampa, and the finalists for the Jags GM job.
Really? That's good news then.
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O.city 11:10 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That's.....
No no, if this FO is doing it, it's fine.
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Sassy Squatch 11:11 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That account has gotten a lot of shit wrong in the past week.

Namely saying Godwin was signing a deal with Tampa, and the finalists for the Jags GM job.
Thank fucking God, so it's just a pleb clout chasing
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:15 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
No no, if this FO is doing it, it's fine.
:-):-):-)

It just might be.

You aren't exactly laying out great ways they should otherwise spend the money. Strength of this draft is by far on defense, DL especially. So is there not potentially some logic in building the roster that way?

It's not open and shut. Only thing that remains certain is they have to nail the draft, and by all accounts, their best shot is taking defenders early this year with a RB or two as well.
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staylor26 11:17 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
:-):-):-)

It just might be.

You aren't exactly laying out great ways they should otherwise spend the money. Strength of this draft is by far on defense, DL especially. So is there not potentially some logic in building the roster that way?

It's not open and shut. Only thing that remains certain is they have to nail the draft, and by all accounts, their best shot is taking defenders early this year with a RB or two as well.
It really is going to come down to the draft regardless of what they do in free agency. I 100% agree with that.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:19 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It really is going to come down to the draft regardless of what they do in free agency. I 100% agree with that.
....and if we're being genuine with the conversation, it's most likely that BPA for the first four rounds is going to be defense or RB. Outside chance a WR or TE squeezes in there. But you don't get to know that before free agency starts and ends.

So if we're squeezing it down to an odds game, the odds are we fill out the best possible starting lineup this year by paying for offense and drafting defense.
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RunKC 11:26 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
:-):-):-)

It just might be.

You aren't exactly laying out great ways they should otherwise spend the money. Strength of this draft is by far on defense, DL especially. So is there not potentially some logic in building the roster that way?

It's not open and shut. Only thing that remains certain is they have to nail the draft, and by all accounts, their best shot is taking defenders early this year with a RB or two as well.
This FA class sucks balls. It SUCKS. The best WR is Chris Godwin, who fucked his leg up badly twice and is apparently wanting to go back to TB anyway, Chase Young finally played a full season after playing less than 10 games each of the last 4 years, Khalil Mack is 34.

Even younger guys man…Josh Sweat only had double-digit sacks in 2022 when everyone around him was amazing, Milton Williams is “good but not great”.

They can afford a LT and another big contract. If that contract isn’t Trey, then it’s not valuable for anymore, bc goddamn man paying any of these other FA’s similar money is not anywhere near as valuable as paying it to Trey Smith.
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staylor26 11:28 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
....and if we're being genuine with the conversation, it's most likely that BPA for the first four rounds is going to be defense or RB. Outside chance a WR or TE squeezes in there. But you don't get to know that before free agency starts and ends.

So if we're squeezing it down to an odds game, the odds are we fill out the best possible starting lineup this year by paying for offense and drafting defense.
Yea and preferably that money goes to LT, but it's entirely possible that the Chiefs don't love ANY of the options at LT, so they'd rather at least keep the rest of the OL in tact. Not what I'd do, but it's not completely illogical either.

It's also possible that they do both.
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staylor26 11:36 AM 02-27-2025
You aren't going to see me arguing much about this one way or the other.

But can you just imagine if the Chiefs left Smith walk, don't solve LT, AND we don't have our OL continue to stay healthy all season? Imagine a scenario where Kingsley isn't quite as good as Smith, LT is still an issue, and an old Joe Thuney has another significant injury. Mahomes is getting hit a ton.

Would everybody screaming not to pay Smith give Veach a pass because he did exactly what they wanted?
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OKchiefs 11:40 AM 02-27-2025
I don't hate paying Smith (don't love it either), but if you have 4 of 4 OL all making over $20 million you are going to have to do a hell of a lot better than what we saw last year which means fixing LT. If they can fix LT (to some degree) and keep the rest of the OL intact for another year then great, but they're going to have a lot of criticism coming their way (and deservedly so) if the OL doesn't do a 180 this coming season with how much money is being spent there.

Highest paid players at nearly every OL position, two up and coming WRs, Travis Kelce coming back another year, hopefully adding more talent at RB, HOF baby Goat at QB, HOF one of the best offensive head coaches of all time, there is no reason why this offense shouldn't be top 5 in 2025 with a lot more explosive plays if they're not decimated by injury again.
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O.city 11:40 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
:-):-):-)

It just might be.

You aren't exactly laying out great ways they should otherwise spend the money. Strength of this draft is by far on defense, DL especially. So is there not potentially some logic in building the roster that way?

It's not open and shut. Only thing that remains certain is they have to nail the draft, and by all accounts, their best shot is taking defenders early this year with a RB or two as well.
Well they could....not spend the $ just to spend it?

We have no clue who may or may not be available via trade etc.

You could also go ahead and extend some of your premier young players not at positions easily filled, like CB and DE.
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O.city 11:41 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You aren't going to see me arguing much about this one way or the other.

But can you just imagine if the Chiefs left Smith walk, don't solve LT, AND we don't have our OL continue to stay healthy all season? Imagine a scenario where Kingsley isn't quite as good as Smith, LT is still an issue, and an old Joe Thuney has another significant injury. Mahomes is getting hit a ton.

Would everybody screaming not to pay Smith give Veach a pass because he did exactly what they wanted?
I'm just not overly into paying good players elite money. It just never seems to really workout.
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staylor26 11:44 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm just not overly into paying good players elite money. It just never seems to really workout.
That doesn't answer my question at all though. It's easy for us to scream don't play him, but if next season plays out like that, many of those same people will be pissed that the OL is still as issue.

I'm just trying to show how we feel about this kind of shit can change quick once the bullets are flying.
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htismaqe 11:47 AM 02-27-2025
I just can't get myself to care either way. I wouldn't pay him over $20M AAV but if they do, oh well.
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O.city 11:48 AM 02-27-2025
Originally Posted by staylor26:
That doesn't answer my question at all though. It's easy for us to scream don't play him, but if next season plays out like that, many of those same people will be pissed that the OL is still as issue.

I'm just trying to show how we feel about this kind of shit can change quick once the bullets are flying.
Well people are stupid, I dunno. If he's making moves just to please the masses, we're in trouble either way.
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