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Two young children are dead and their mother suffered major injuries after two family dogs attacked a baby and toddler outside their West Tennessee home.Kirstie Bennard, 30, suffered critical injuries when she tried to intervene in the attack on her 5-month-old boy, Hollace Dean, and 2-year-old girl, Lilly Jane, family and police said.
"She put her body on top of Lilly’s to try and protect her after the attack started," Bennard's uncle by marriage, Jeff Gibson told USA TODAY on Saturday. "Both (dogs) started attacking her while she lay on Lilly."The two children were pronounced dead when officials arrived at the home, the sheriff's office reported.
It was not immediately known what provoked the mauling.The mauling, Gibson said, lasted about 10 minutes.The dogs – two pit bulls that belonged to the family – were euthanized at Memphis Animal Services Thursday.
The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.
"I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," Canfield told the outlet. "Those children were everything to them, and they just have a really long journey ahead."
How do you feel about PittBull's? I posted this because my wife shared this story with me and my son was just recently participating in a "read to sheltered dogs" event where you could adopt a dog (I know brilliant).
I've heard the arguments that PittBull's get a bad wrap, but it seems time and time again they are the focal point of dogs who do these horrible acts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Have a relative who had a pitbull who was properly trained and socialized. Snapped after 12 years and tried to kill her, mauling her hands and arms and leaving her hospitalized for weeks.
It does NOT all stem back to the owner.
We have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi who is trained and relatively well behaved most times. Some times though she ignores us and does what she wants. It stems from her being a herding dog. It’s instinctual for her to be the one in control. Doesn’t make her a bad dog or a dog with no discipline, just one whose instincts take over at times. Pit Bulls are bred to fight and all the training in the world could make them passive, but the risk of that side coming out is always there. [Reply]
Yep, see those stories all the time of normal, nice families who socialize them and they still snap... they're just a breed prone to it
Just socializing this type of dog is not enough. They need constant focused training and the owners need training as well on how to handle a large breed dog with that much power and how to spot aggressive body language so aggressive behavior can be stopped before it manifests into an incident. I volunteer at a rescue for pits and in my estimation only about 5% of the population is capable of being a good owner for one. There are so many things you have to learn about these dogs and so much specialized training required that you should really need a license to own one. You need to now what their specific triggers are (food, possession, noise, same sex, etc...) and you have to work with them on dealing with those triggers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Just socializing this type of dog is not enough. They need constant focused training and the owners need training as well on how to handle a large breed dog with that much power and how to spot aggressive body language so aggressive behavior can be stopped before it manifests into an incident. I volunteer at a rescue for pits and in my estimation only about 5% of the population is capable of being a good owner for one. There are so many things you have to learn about these dogs and so much specialized training required that you should really need a license to own one. You need to now what their specific triggers are (food, possession, noise, same sex, etc...) and you have to work with them on dealing with those triggers.
I tell you what'd be a whole lot easier, just outlaw them nationwide... so when the living ones die off, they're all gone [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Just socializing this type of dog is not enough. They need constant focused training and the owners need training as well on how to handle a large breed dog with that much power and how to spot aggressive body language so aggressive behavior can be stopped before it manifests into an incident. I volunteer at a rescue for pits and in my estimation only about 5% of the population is capable of being a good owner for one. There are so many things you have to learn about these dogs and so much specialized training required that you should really need a license to own one. You need to now what their specific triggers are (food, possession, noise, same sex, etc...) and you have to work with them on dealing with those triggers.
I personally feel Pitties get a bad rap from stupid fucking owners.
Pibble owners should be young, single, and live a quiet, solitary life. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
I had one charge my 4 year old when while I was working on a flower garden in my front yard. That dog started charging at my Son and got within 20 yards of him before I squared that beast in the jaw with my shovel. It ****ed the dog up enough that it laid on the ground for about 10 seconds whimpering and then scurried off. It's too bad I wasn't carrying. I would have happily put a bullet in it's head.
Good for you man. So we all agree, f*** these dogs. No guns where I am and there's sh*tloads of these and the American Bully XLs messing people up. I hate them and their owners. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers:
I tell you what'd be a whole lot easier, just outlaw them nationwide... so when the living ones die off, they're all gone
Nah, just regulate breeding to start breeding some of the aggression out of them and require a license that can only be earned through rigorous training classes to own one. No reason to outlaw a breed that has been around since the 1800s. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Nah, just regulate breeding to start breeding some of the aggression out of them and require a license that can only be earned through rigorous training classes to own one. No reason to outlaw a breed that has been around since the 1800s.
Haven't they been trying to breed the aggression out of them for decades? I feel like a 4 legged ticking time bomb isn't worth it when there are so many other wonderful breeds of dogs.
These things are like a status symbol for some stupid reason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bdj23:
Haven't they been trying to breed the aggression out of them for decades? I feel like a 4 legged ticking time bomb isn't worth it when there are so many other wonderful breeds of dogs.
These things are like a status symbol for some stupid reason.
I think it's a byproduct of the current fad of "I don't have to follow rules because I'm special". If someone says you shouldn't do something, we now see big flocks of people who do that very thing.
I feel like we need a faster form of darwinism, though. Maybe we should put big electrified fountains in town squares with signs that say, "Don't go into the water." [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Nah, just regulate breeding to start breeding some of the aggression out of them and require a license that can only be earned through rigorous training classes to own one. No reason to outlaw a breed that has been around since the 1800s.
I gave you a thumbs up because what you suggested is a good idea. My only question is why have them? What does a Pit Bull provide outside of being a status symbol? [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I gave you a thumbs up because what you suggested is a good idea. My only question is why have them? What does a Pit Bull provide outside of being a status symbol?
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I think it's a byproduct of the current fad of "I don't have to follow rules because I'm special". If someone says you shouldn't do something, we now see big flocks of people who do that very thing.
I feel like we need a faster form of darwinism, though. Maybe we should put big electrified fountains in town squares with signs that say, "Don't go into the water."
Good idea
My neighborhood now full of kids that are 2-5 years old. I'd just hate to see something bad happen to one of them because the 110lb woman can't control her dog that is 80lbs of muscle.
Plus there has been a few occasions that people have dumped pits in the country and they wander into my neighborhood. [Reply]
