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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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htismaqe 04:24 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Getting Pacheco back is going to give this offense a jolt. They need his energy and fresh legs badly.

Also think the same for Omenihu.

And yes I think Hollywood starts practicing sometime next month. I pray to God Watson comes back at the end of next month as well.
Opposing teams just don't respect the running game right now. God love Kareem but he's slow and has next to no wiggle. Pacheco can fly and that's a big deal down the stretch.
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BWillie 04:24 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Allen’s greatest failure is that he can’t beat Mahomes. You know what… Peyton struggled to beat Brady too. I respect josh Allen a ton and I like buffalo fans because they’ve stuck with their team through thick and thin.

He’d be my pick for 2nd best too. I get burrows place in the discussion. And Lamar this season has certainly put himself in the conversation but we need to see him win some really big games first
Lamar shits the bed every single postseason. He isnt even in the same stratosphere as Allen and Burrow until he shows he doesn't turn into a pumpkin in the postseason
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Megatron96 04:30 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
He has none of the skills of Tee Higgins or Drake London as a prospect. Zero craft to his game.

Not saying he can't better but he came out with far less polish than those guys.


That's what I said, isn't it? He has the physical tools, but we'll have to wait and see how/if he develops. If he does develop into a solid possession receiver, and he doesn't have to become the next Tee Higgins or whatever, he's going to become a problem to cover, especially in the RZ.
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MahomesMagic 04:33 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
That's what I said, isn't it? He has the physical tools, but we'll have to wait and see how/if he develops. If he does develop into a solid possession receiver, and he doesn't have to become the next Tee Higgins or whatever, he's going to become a problem to cover, especially in the RZ.
Ok, wasn't following that then.


Again, I liked him as a prospect but thought he was too raw to spend a high pick on for where we were.
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Megatron96 04:58 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Ok, wasn't following that then.


Again, I liked him as a prospect but thought he was too raw to spend a high pick on for where we were.


Ah, well that's slightly different as well. I wasn't actually thinking about Coleman in terms of whether we should've taken him instead of Worthy. Tbh, I never thought about that at all even before the draft. I would agree that Coleman seemed too raw to take before Worthy. I just thought it was a decent pick for BUF, because of his obvious physical traits. They play in northern NY, and it gets pretty windy there, so a big physical target made a lot of sense. Especially in the playoffs, when speed isn't as big of an asset, come Dec/Jan.
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comochiefsfan 05:16 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Allen’s greatest failure is that he can’t beat Mahomes. You know what… Peyton struggled to beat Brady too. I respect josh Allen a ton and I like buffalo fans because they’ve stuck with their team through thick and thin.

He’d be my pick for 2nd best too. I get burrows place in the discussion. And Lamar this season has certainly put himself in the conversation but we need to see him win some really big games first
Joe Burrow is good, but his legacy is ridiculously inflated by a playoff run to the Super Bowl during which he did almost nothing.

If Patrick Mahomes hadn’t completely forgotten how to play football in the second half of that first AFCCG, then no one is putting Burrow anywhere near the top of these discussions.
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Straight, No Chaser 05:21 PM 11-18-2024
When I texted my friend in Denver there was a Vaughn Miller sighting in the Chiefs backfield yesterday, he just laughed...
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Coochie liquor 06:55 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Fucking Clay singlehandedly extended Brady's career. :-)
Remember last season when he cost us the Dungkeys streak by posting the Let’s talk about the Eagles thread on the week we played Dungver?
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Hammock Parties 06:59 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Remember last season when he cost us the Dungkeys streak by posting the Let’s talk about the Eagles thread on the week we played Dungver?
Go fuck yourselves! The Chiefs are back to back Champs and I helped!
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ptlyon 07:05 PM 11-18-2024
Proven jinx
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tredadda 09:03 PM 11-18-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Allen is one of the best QBs to ever play the game of football, so there’s really not much shame in that. It’s going to happen from time to time.

It’s weird to me that he’s not accepted as the clear #2 to Mahomes (guys like Lamar and Burrow are still suggested) but I think his greatness would be far more obvious to most fans if the Chiefs didn’t own his team in the playoffs his entire career (and that ownership has almost next to nothing to do with his own performance in the playoffs). We almost certainly win that game yesterday if we are playing anybody other than the Bills.

If/when the Chiefs inevitably have a down period again, Josh Allen is probably going to be the biggest beneficiary.
Allen is genuinely about the only QB who has willed his team to victories against KC. He’s gotten better each year and should have won MVP last year.
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Coochie liquor 05:04 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Go fuck yourselves! The Chiefs are back to back Champs and I helped!
You must be forgetting about how my “won’t sniff a playoff win” thread after the Xmas day debacle helped carry us to a SB trophy.
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tredadda 09:49 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Opposing teams just don't respect the running game right now. God love Kareem but he's slow and has next to no wiggle. Pacheco can fly and that's a big deal down the stretch.
I think Hunt is also wearing down. When Pacheco comes back he can spell Hunt. Use Hunt for short yardage and have Pacheco be the bell cow.
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FloridaMan88 11:11 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Opposing teams just don't respect the running game right now. God love Kareem but he's slow and has next to no wiggle. Pacheco can fly and that's a big deal down the stretch.
This is true.

The Chiefs longest run from a RB this season is 17 yards.

Their longest run overall is a 33 yard scramble by Mahomes.
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Dante84 11:17 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I think Hunt is also wearing down. When Pacheco comes back he can spell Hunt. Use Hunt for short yardage and have Pacheco be the bell cow.
I think we deliberately limited his carries this week (for some reason). Maybe we were trying to "surprise" the Bills with a pass-heavy game to break trend, hence the focus on Worthy?

I'd like to limit his carries again this week against the Panthers to keep him fresh for the home stretch.

Denver and LAC are seemingly better than we thought they'd be at the beginning of the season, so we have 4 games against playoff-ish teams remaining:

Denver
LAC
Pittsburgh
Houston

We could really use the BYE, so slipping in that stretch would not be ideal. A healthy Hunt is critical.
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