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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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ChiefsFanatic 06:16 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I’ll give him a pass for putrid OL play, but he really needs to hit that deep pass to Worthy and the one to Kelce on the last drive.
It's frustrating that this is the second TD pass to Worthy that he missed because he didn't put the ball more inside.

Against the Broncos all he had to do was throw the ball to the numbers and let Worthy track it into the end zone.

Mahomes is way too good to miss throws like that over and over.
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ChiefsFanatic 06:21 PM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
He's never been a great deep ball thrower his entire career and he's had very few attempts at it in recent years. Not sure why anyone would be too surprised by that miss.

The shocking missed throw for him was to Kelce. That's one he makes 99% of the time. Still led the game winning drive though, so all's well that ends well.
I was surprised he missed it because it's a mistake he has already made, and with his high football IQ he usually doesn't make the same mistake a second time.

So, yeah, it's surprising that our super intelligent, physically gifted QB repeated a stupid mistake that lesser QBs have little to no problem fixing.
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O.city 01:58 PM 11-12-2024
He's just not playing well. Looking at some of the Denver clips, he's just leaving stuff on the field. I dunno.
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Hammock Parties 02:00 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
He's just not playing well. Looking at some of the Denver clips, he's just leaving stuff on the field. I dunno.
Patrick tends to take two steps forward, one step back sometimes. He was excellent against TB and LV.

I think BUF will be an excellent game.
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RunKC 02:06 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
He's just not playing well. Looking at some of the Denver clips, he's just leaving stuff on the field. I dunno.
It’s the LT.

Mahomes was pressured on 50% of his throws Sunday that were not blitzes. Only higher rate was the SB 55 debacle which was 55%.

Pressure has always been to solution to beating a great QB.
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ThaVirus 03:10 PM 11-12-2024
He’s been pretty good this season overall, IMO. Only bad games were Bengals, Chargers and Broncos.

He’s got a lot of room for improvement to get back to the level of play we’re accustomed to from him, though. And it actually makes me feel better seeing him miss some of these throws. Receivers are open. The scheme and plays still work.. and who do we trust to get their shit together over anyone else?

He gets his shit right, this team instantly goes from heart attack squad to best team in the league.
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htismaqe 03:15 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
It’s the LT.

Mahomes was pressured on 50% of his throws Sunday that were not blitzes. Only higher rate was the SB 55 debacle which was 55%.

Pressure has always been to solution to beating a great QB.
The whole fucking line was bad on Sunday.
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ChiefsFanatic 08:19 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The whole fucking line was bad on Sunday.
But it's the LT that is the issue, not the entire line.

And it's been a problem literally since the first game. It's ridiculous that Veach is letting Mahomes get killed this year.

I believe if Mahomes gets hurt and misses games because of the LT, Veach is no longer a good GM. He will still be a decent to good talent evaluator, but letting your franchise QB, the GOAT, get hurt because you ran a second year player, and a rookie, out there, and refused to add a veteran, ostensibly to prove how smart you are (I honestly can't think of any other reason you would refuse to add a veteran LT) then you are dumb AF.

I don't care what Mahomes says, or anyone on CP, he plays scared because he is afraid to injure his ankle even more. Because the LT is such trash, whether it's Morris or the trashier Suamataia, he ends up being skittish even when they manage to actually block, because he expects them to get beat.

Mahomes has to talk them up, and put the blame on himself, but it's really the LT.

It's also frustrating because even fans can see it's the LT, yet Reid, Veach, and Mahomes keep pretending LT isn't what's holding back the offense. It is.

Watch the All-22. LT is like the jenga block that makes the stack fall down. Over, and over, and over again.
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Pasta Little Brioni 08:23 PM 11-12-2024
He's easily missed a dozen easy, wide open TDs this year. That's not really acceptable no matter who you are
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Chiefspants 08:46 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
He's easily missed a dozen easy, wide open TDs this year. That's not really acceptable no matter who you are
He’s gotta play better. Eventually, like the Oakland game on Christmas Day, those chickens will come home to roost (him not trusting his LT is a recurring theme here).

He got it figured out in time for the playoffs last year. You just hope he turns it on then as he almost always does.
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DRM08 08:55 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The whole ****ing line was bad on Sunday.
Yep. Less than 40 yards on the ground from the RB’s. Broncos did a great job in the trenches, both stuffing the run and getting plenty of pressure on Mahomes.
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BlackOp 10:07 PM 11-12-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Yep. Less than 40 yards on the ground from the RB’s. Broncos did a great job in the trenches, both stuffing the run and getting plenty of pressure on Mahomes.
The playing calling was weird...they kept running these long developing plays when Mahomes was being harassed. It made no sense...Reid has a million screen plays and when they finally ran one, Hunt got like 22 yards.
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ChiefsFanatic 12:29 AM 11-13-2024
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
The playing calling was weird...they kept running these long developing plays when Mahomes was being harassed. It made no sense...Reid has a million screen plays and when they finally ran one, Hunt got like 22 yards.
That's exactly how Reid hung Mahomes out to dry in SB 55. Instead of calling plays to get the ball out quickly, he and EB kept calling plays designed to develop 15 yards down field, forcing Mahomes to hold the ball.

Reid is an offensive lineman, so him saying that the left tackle position is fine is a lie. I wish someone would sit Wanya and Kingsley down and tell them they are single handedly making Reid lie in public.
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RINGLEADER 01:48 AM 11-13-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Yep. Less than 40 yards on the ground from the RB’s. Broncos did a great job in the trenches, both stuffing the run and getting plenty of pressure on Mahomes.
Agree. Neither of which will happen this week in Buffalo with their zone BS. Hunt gets 150 combined yards and Kelce/Hopkins light em up.

But also agree with the 7-10 ppg we seem to leave on the field from Mahomes making poor throws. Still wouldn’t want anyone else back there for KC but that easily could have been a 30-14 game if he just makes too throws. Gotta believe he’ll be doing better come playoff time.
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KC_Connection 02:09 AM 11-13-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I was surprised he missed it because it's a mistake he has already made, and with his high football IQ he usually doesn't make the same mistake a second time.

So, yeah, it's surprising that our super intelligent, physically gifted QB repeated a stupid mistake that lesser QBs have little to no problem fixing.
It wasn’t surprising or concerning to me at all. Mahomes has missed such throws before and he will again. That imperfection doesn’t change the fact that he’s the best to ever play the position by a wide margin.
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