Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod:
Hit 136 times in 1.5 seasons. 2nd most.
I wonder if this is broken up by time? Maybe like hits from 0-2.5 seconds and hits taken after 2.5 seconds?
I know he’s a wizard and helps the offensive line out more than they help him, but he does also like to hang onto the ball until the very last second looking to make a play. I’m thinking that may be inflating the numbers a bit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I wonder if this is broken up by time? Maybe like hits from 0-2.5 seconds and hits taken after 2.5 seconds?
I know he’s a wizard and helps the offensive line out more than they help him, but he does also like to hang onto the ball until the very last second looking to make a play. I’m thinking that may be inflating the numbers a bit.
Agreed. A big part of his talent is moving around and extending plays waiting for someone to break open. He may take more hits because of that, but they're often not the violent hits that we typically think about with the "quarterback hits" term. It's a dude pushing him outside the tackle box after he releases it. I'm not worried that he's taking disproportionate hits.
I saw a mini-interview with Joe Burrow the other day where he said something interesting. Yeah, I'll admit it: Joe Burrow said something interesting. He was asked about the number of sacks he takes, and he pftted. He said, "Sacks are really overrated. I don't care if I take a sack on third down because I'm holding the ball longer on third down to try to make a play. If no one's open and I take a sack, who cares as long as it doesn't push us out of field goal range?" [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Agreed. A big part of his talent is moving around and extending plays waiting for someone to break open. He may take more hits because of that, but they're often not the violent hits that we typically think about with the "quarterback hits" term. It's a dude pushing him outside the tackle box after he releases it. I'm not worried that he's taking disproportionate hits.
I saw a mini-interview with Joe Burrow the other day where he said something interesting. Yeah, I'll admit it: Joe Burrow said something interesting. He was asked about the number of sacks he takes, and he pftted. He said, "Sacks are really overrated. I don't care if I take a sack on third down because I'm holding the ball longer on third down to try to make a play. If no one's open and I take a sack, who cares as long as it doesn't push us out of field goal range?"
I think that’s a deafest attitude… Patrick scrambles to get guys open.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
After posting an 88 Total QBR yesterday and 82.6 last week in SF, Mahomes is ranked 7th overall this season amongst QBs at 67.1 (for comparison, he was 79.0 during 2022 - #1 in the NFL, last year he was at 63.9 - 8th in the NFL; although #1 in the playoffs at 86.9)
I've always loved this stat because it's never not passed the eye test IMO.
He's getting into his groove and with 10 games to go and an undefeated season in the balance, the MVP is still there for the taking.
Sometimes the numbers don’t make sense though. Trevor Lawrence somehow got a 79 grade on Sunday. He fumbled deep in his own territory to give 7 points to Green Bay in a game the Jaguars lost by one possession. When you fumble the game away, your QBR should not be any higher than 60/100.
Joe Burrow somehow graded close to 90 in a game where he scored 17 points. Team needed him to put 30+ on the board and he wasn’t close to that. Kirk Cousins had an awesome game and somehow they grade him 75/100. [Reply]
