Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
I'm sure you believe that Denver is in a rebuild, but Rodgers wanted to go to Denver LAST YEAR. He doesn't view Denver as a team in a rebuild. The only position Denver is missing is the position he plays. His former offensive coordinator - and close friend - is already waiting for him in Denver so he can hit the ground running.
Chiefs fans on Chiefsplanet are the only people I've seen who view Denver in the light you view them. Everyone else views Denver as the 2020 Bucs, 2021 Rams, or the 2012 Broncos.
Good lord, you have to be the most delusional Donko homer out there. NO ONE, outside of Denver, would consider you the Super Bowl odds on favorite if you added Rodgers. NO ONE. Your team is not close to being the 2020 Bucs or 2021 Rams. You really do live in your own fantasy world.
I get it, though. Rodgers most likely isn’t coming to Denver so it’s easy for you to make ridiculous claims like this and then when he doesn’t come, you can say stupid shit like ‘well, IF we had added Rodgers to our team than we could have/would have won the AFC’. On the other hand, if you do manage to land him and you don’t make the Super Bowl (which you won’t with him, ever), then you’ll just disappear from here like your normally do for long chunks of time when things aren’t going the way you think they should. No surprise.
I get it. It’s your schtick. We all get it. You’ve been doing it for years. [Reply]
Ya the guy that failed on a loaded GB team is gonna lead a shit Denver roster to a title. Oh well all talk is saying Denver is not the destination. Likely he's not leaving at this point. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
He mentioned Denver specifically, did he? Not just “Get me the hell out of Green Bay!” He said, “I want to play for the Denver Broncos.”
**** off
Russell Wilson has had the Bears, Raiders, Giants, and Broncos mentioned as teams he would play for, but after the 49ers and Packers Rams acquired their QB's, Denver has been the only team mentioned with Rodgers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
Ya the guy that failed on a loaded GB team is gonna lead a shit Denver roster to a title. Oh well all talk is saying Denver is not the destination. Likely he's not leaving at this point.
These Denver fans don't understand that Jeudy just isn't that good.
KJ Hamler isn't Tyreek Hill. He's Dexter McCluster without the juke moves.
I'm sure Fant is a nice young man and an excellent teammate. But he's not this awesome weapon he was drafted to be and he's certainly not anything to write home about as a special player that Rodgers would use to attack defenses with.
Their offense is still nothing more than Sutton, a pretty good (but overrated) young RB, and a LT who's not as bad as he is stupid. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
These Denver fans don't understand that Jeudy just isn't that good.
KJ Hamler isn't Tyreek Hill. He's Dexter McCluster without the juke moves.
I'm sure Fant is a nice young man and an excellent teammate. But he's not this awesome weapon he was drafted to be and he's certainly not anything to write home about as a special player that Rodgers would use to attack defenses with.
Their offense is still nothing more than Sutton, a pretty good (but overrated) young RB, and a LT who's not as bad as he is stupid.
Yeah, it’s gotten kind of ridiculous for the Donko homers. They seem convinced if they add a solid QB (Rodgers, Wilson, etc.) that they will have the ‘most talented offensive roster in the AFC’ . . . . . . :-)
Like anyone outside of Denver thinks this. What two skill position players match up with Hill and Kelce? What 3 WR’s Denver has match up with Chase, Higgins and Boyd? Hell, at this point, even the Chargers offense with Herbert, Ekeler, Allen and Williams has proven more.
The Donko homers think that just because they spend high draft picks on players, they’re automatically gonna hit. As Chiefs fans who suffered through that thinking for years, we know that’s not the case. Jeudy has failed to live up to his billing. Hamler and Fant have proven Jack shit. Sutton is a solid receiver. Javonte looks to have some potential, but it’s like they want to ignore the fact he averaged 4.4 ypc. That’s not impressive. So again, they’ve got a couple pieces. One proven, one not totally, one that looks like a bust, and a couple that have t accomplished anything noteworthy. Apparently that’s what compromises the ‘most talented offense in the AFC’ if you just add a QB to it.
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Yeah, it’s gotten kind of ridiculous for the Donko homers. They seemed convinced if they add a solid QB (Rodgers, Wilson, etc.) that they will have the ‘most talented offensive roster in the AFC’ . . . . . . :-)
Like anyone outside of Denver thinks this. What two skill position players match up with Hill and Kelce? What 3 WR’s Denver has match up with Chase, Higgins and Boyd? Hell, at this point, even the Chargers offense with Herbert, Ekeler, Allen and Williams has proven more.
The Donko homers think that just because they spend high draft picks on players, they’re automatically gonna hit. As Chiefs fans who suffered through that thinking for years, we know that’s not the case. Heheh has failed to live up to his billing. Hamler and Fant have proven Jack shit. Sutton is a solid receiver. Javonte looks to have some potential, but it’s like they want to ignore the fact he averaged 4.4 ypc. That’s not impressive. So again, they’ve got a couple pieces. One proven, one not totally, one that looks like a bust, and a couple that have t accomplished anything noteworthy. Apparently that’s what compromises the ‘most talented offense in the AFC’ if you just add a QB to it.
Ridiculous and delusional.
Hill and Kelce being elite has significantly more to do with who their QB is than how good they are. Put them on the 2021 Broncos and they'd struggle to get 1,000 yards and 5 TD's. Put them with Mahomes and they're among the best, most productive players at their position. I'm not knocking them, it's just the truth.
Hill went from 1,100 yards and 7 TD's to 1,400 yards and 12 TD's from 2017 to 2018 not because he got better, but his QB did.
Kelce went from 1,000 yards and 8 TD's to 1,300 yards and 10 TD's because of his QB. Not because he was any better.
There are a TON of awesome WR's/TE's out there who are just as good as some "name" guys, but they don't have a QB who can get them the ball. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Hill and Kelce being elite has significantly more to do with who their QB is than how good they are. Put them on the 2021 Broncos and they'd struggle to get 1,000 yards and 5 TD's. Put them with Mahomes and they're among the best, most productive players at their position. I'm not knocking them, it's just the truth.
Hill went from 1,100 yards and 7 TD's to 1,400 yards and 12 TD's from 2017 to 2018 not because he got better, but his QB did.
Kelce went from 1,000 yards and 8 TD's to 1,300 yards and 10 TD's because of his QB. Not because he was any better.
There are a TON of awesome WR's/TE's out there who are just as good as some "name" guys, but they don't have a QB who can get them the ball.
Lmao. Hill and Kelce were all pros before Mahomes was drafted. Maybe if your dumpster fire franchise could scout, and draft like a real NFL team you’d have better players. It’s not like Hill or Kelce were drafted in the first 2 rounds. Just like our OL the best GM in the league rebuilt this past offseason. Every team had a shot at the best Center in the league, or a top 5 RT. And aside from all that, all we’ve seen/heard from you over the past 5 years is how “insert shitty quarterbacks name” is the one that’s gonna get you over the hump. I recall all the dick sucking you’ve done for every bad decision your team has brought in.
Assweiler - Knowshit blew him
Pickston - Knowshit blew him
Keesum - Knowshit blew him
Semen - Knowshit blew him
$wag Kelly - Knowshit blew him
“Still in his prime” Flaccid - Knowshit blew him
Lockweiler - Knowshit blew him
Turddy Brownwater - Knowshit blew him too.
At this point Blowmo I’d say you’ve had as many wieners in your mouth as Joey Chestnut. Obviously your player assessment skills are on par with Failways. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Hill and Kelce being elite has significantly more to do with who their QB is than how good they are. Put them on the 2021 Broncos and they'd struggle to get 1,000 yards and 5 TD's. Put them with Mahomes and they're among the best, most productive players at their position. I'm not knocking them, it's just the truth.
Hill went from 1,100 yards and 7 TD's to 1,400 yards and 12 TD's from 2017 to 2018 not because he got better, but his QB did.
Kelce went from 1,000 yards and 8 TD's to 1,300 yards and 10 TD's because of his QB. Not because he was any better.
There are a TON of awesome WR's/TE's out there who are just as good as some "name" guys, but they don't have a QB who can get them the ball.
Does it? Or could Hill and Kelce just be elite talents? Last I checked, Hill and Kelce had both been 1st Team All Pro’s prior to Mahomes getting here. Kelce made the Pro Bowl all 3 years from 2015-2017 with Alex Smith as his QB. Same for Hill for 2016 & 2017. Did Mahomes getting here elevate their game? Of course. But for them to be considered the ‘best of the best’, there had to be something there to work with in the first place. Both were already recognized as elite talents before Mahomes ever arrived.
You can’t say the same about any of Denver’s offensive ‘talent’. By comparison, let’s look at Sutton and Fant, your most ‘talented’ WR and your most ‘talented’ TE. Sutton made one Pro Bowl in 2019. Good on him. No All Pro’s though. Fant has accomplished nothing noteworthy. Their stats this year playing in all 17 games? Sutton 58 rec. for 776 yards, 2 TD’s. Fant 68 rec. 670 yards, 4 TD’s. That’s all. For 17 games worth of play. And those are your two most talented at each position. The rest (outside of Javonte) are hardly worth mentioning.
No QB (Rodgers, Wilson, etc.) is going to come in and ‘elevate’ THAT to Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelce (using your example). You know why? Because that ‘special’ talent was never there to begin with. If it was, it would have showed up by now, regardless of the QB (see Chiefs with Alex, a.k.a. Check down Charlie).
The truth is you DONT have all this offensive talent. You’ve just convinced yourself that you do because a bunch of high draft picks were spent. And that means exactly Jack and shit . . . . . . especially when you consider who (Elway) was responsible for drafting them. [Reply]
It doesn’t matter. Rodgers isn’t even a top 3 QB in the conference if he comes here. He’s maybe 4th.
Nobody wants to take him over Allen, Mahomes or Burrow. We’ll see about Herbert.
The truth is Rodgers has been a shiny Kirk Cousins for the last 12 years and it’s likely bc he doesn’t love football anymore. The Packers have given this guy loaded teams and he’s done nothing but choke over and over and over again.
It’s not even bc a Tom Brady was in his way except for 1 time (he still blew that one) but he just had no winning burning desire anymore.
He’s had HFA the last 2 years and blew it spectacularly. This year it wasn’t even a tough opponent :-)
He’s a shiny Kirk Cousins at this point. Stat padder who can’t get the job done when it matters. [Reply]