I just feel like everyone is going to spend all week talking about Mahomes' ankle or Burrow being a Demigod or Chase against this young secondary or Lou Anarumo being a psychopath...and then in the end it's just going to Samaje Perine bludgeoning Bolton and Gay to death.
Originally Posted by Chargem:
I really don't want you to think I am defending PFF, but you do know that bad QBs can also throw to people that are wide open, right?
You apparently do want to defend PFF to even engage in this. Mahomes threw a 76% completion percentage, 360 yards, 5 TDs, 0 INTs. He threw to 9 different receivers. There is no way his performance was "just barely a starter" because his receivers were getting too open. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
PFF tries to isolate individual performance though, even though they do it badly, and points are a team stat. I can't remember that game, but if Pat was just throwing to wide open guys all day, PFF would not give him a high rating.
Hiring unpaid interns to determine what is an expected turnover play or whatever is why PFF is a joke and yes they do this [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
You apparently do want to defend PFF to even engage in this. Mahomes threw a 76% completion percentage, 360 yards, 5 TDs, 0 INTs. He threw to 9 different receivers. There is no way his performance was "just barely a starter" because his receivers were getting too open.
Two things can be true, PFF is generally bad and also you can still be wrong about that game. You just come across as a dumbass saying he must have had a great game if he had 360 yards and 5 TDs. Per PFR, 192 of those 360 yards were after the catch, the average air yards per completion was only 4.3, and he had a fumble.
Plus per PFF for 2022, Patrick Mahomes finished with an elite grade and was their best QB per their ratings system.
I'm not even sure his 70 grade is "barely a starter" as you suggest, because I don't know their rating system well, as like I said PFF is garbage
Originally Posted by Kiimo:
Hiring unpaid interns to determine what is an expected turnover play or whatever is why PFF is a joke and yes they do this
One of the few things I agree with PFF on is that if a QB throws a pass right to a defender and the defender drops it, you should probably call that a bad play by the QB.
The same way I don't blame Mahomes when he throws a perfect bomb to end a game and MVS drops it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by notorious:
The Bengals were every bit the Chiefs match for a couple years, I don’t see how anyone can deny that.
Time has moved on, the Chiefs have slid 2 more rings on their fingers, let’s see how the long term turns out.
I disagree. They have struggled to keep their QB healthy and won a few playoff games by small margins. We have 3 rings and blown out some teams in the playoffs. Beating the best defensive teams in the league. They have fell short of us. [Reply]
One of the few things I agree with PFF on is that if a QB throws a pass right to a defender and the defender drops it, you should probably call that a bad play by the QB.
The same way I don't blame Mahomes when he throws a perfect bomb to end a game and MVS drops it.
That's not what PFF does that brings Mahomes down though. He gets brought down due to two reasons: throwing to a wide open guy, which he throws dudes OPEN which is different and PFF doesn't account for it.
Two, he throws into tight windows that PFF determines "should be intercepted". who decides what should be intercepted? You got it, unpaid interns.
It's why Nick Wright goes ballistic on them regularly. If your algorithm puts that game as a C level you need to throw the algorithm out.
....and there's no fucking way "jump ball Joe" is the most accurate by ANY measure. The bullshit completions his cyborg WRs came down with against us alone should dock him 50 points [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
I disagree. They have struggled to keep their QB healthy and won a few playoff games by small margins. We have 3 rings and blown out some teams in the playoffs. Beating the best defensive teams in the league. They have fell short of us.
Every bit the Chiefs match, meaning in games they could have gone either way every time.
Nobody can match the Chiefs run the last 5-6 years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
....and there's no ****ing way "jump ball Joe" is the most accurate by ANY measure. The bullshit completions his cyborg WRs came down with against us alone should dock him 50 points
Whoever wrote the code for those cyborg wide receivers overdid the program for pushing off. [Reply]
