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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 02:46 PM 10-07-2011
I hope ku and ksu send extra nice Christmas cards this year.

ChipBrownOB: Texas agreeing to TCU in the B12 a major concession to rest of league by allowing everyone to recruit DFW even more.
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DJ's left nut 02:54 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
I hope ku and ksu send extra nice Christmas cards this year.

ChipBrownOB: Texas agreeing to TCU in the B12 a major concession to rest of league by allowing everyone to recruit DFW even more.
What?

As though kids in Dallas weren't looking to other XII schools because TCU was in the Big East?

That's just dumb. Good lord, Chip Brown sucks.
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eazyb81 02:57 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
What?

As though kids in Dallas weren't looking to other XII schools because TCU was in the Big East?

That's just dumb. Good lord, Chip Brown sucks.
The whole wording of that tweet just shows how f'd up the Big 12 is.

Why the hell is Texas "allowing" TCU in? I thought supermajority is all that's needed? Does Deloss Dodds have veto power over every decision?
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DJ's left nut 03:01 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
The whole wording of that tweet just shows how f'd up the Big 12 is.

Why the hell is Texas "allowing" TCU in? I thought supermajority is all that's needed? Does Deloss Dodds have veto power over every decision?
Mizzou is really really stupid for wanting to leave this conference.
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ChiefsCountry 03:30 PM 10-07-2011
Of course Chip Brown makes his money off homer Texas fans, of course he is going to say stupid shit like that.
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Saul Good 03:42 PM 10-07-2011
There's a rumor floating around that Mizzou has the votes and will be in the East with Arkansas as the rivalry game.

That would mean we would play Florida, Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Arkansas every year plus one other team from the West, I believe.

That's doable. If we can sweep the non-con, and I think we'd schedule patsies, there's no reason we couldn't win 9 games or so with regularity. Florida's the only monster on that schedule, and you never know what's going to happen now that Urban's gone.

It's tougher than the Big Leftovers, but it's not a death sentence.
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talastan 03:43 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
There's a rumor floating around that Mizzou has the votes and will be in the East with Arkansas as the rivalry game.

That would mean we would play Florida, Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Arkansas every year plus one other team from the West, I believe.

That's doable. If we can sweep the non-con, and I think we'd schedule patsies, there's no reason we couldn't win 9 games or so with regularity. Florida's the only monster on that schedule, and you never know what's going to happen now that Urban's gone.

It's tougher than the Big Leftovers, but it's not a death sentence.
I don't care if we're in the East or the West, lets just get the deal done!!!
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DaKCMan AP 03:44 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
There's a rumor floating around that Mizzou has the votes and will be in the East with Arkansas as the rivalry game.

That would mean we would play Florida, Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Arkansas every year plus one other team from the West, I believe.

That's doable. If we can sweep the non-con, and I think we'd schedule patsies, there's no reason we couldn't win 9 games or so with regularity. Florida's the only monster on that schedule, and you never know what's going to happen now that Urban's gone.

It's tougher than the Big Leftovers, but it's not a death sentence.
You forgot Georgia and Florida was good before Urban.
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Frazod 03:44 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Mizzou is really really stupid for wanting to leave this conference.
Nice avatar.
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DJ's left nut 03:46 PM 10-07-2011
I love the thought of going to the East and having a crossover with Arkansas; freakin' love it.

Oh, and if you are salivating at the idea of the SEC - do NOT read Joe Strauss's twitter right now. It's not sunshine and roses.

"Insecurity in its DNA" was his last one.

Seriously, Mizzou, if you blow this, I will seriously fuck you up.
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DJ's left nut 03:49 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
Nice avatar.
Steal away - I couldn't find the one with the tiger slashes over "M.I.Z. - S.E.C." so I went with my best backup option.

It'll do.
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Frazod 03:50 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Steal away - I couldn't find the one with the tiger slashes over "M.I.Z. - S.E.C." so I went with my best backup option.

It'll do.
I like it, but I'm too superstitious to use it until (if?) it becomes official.

/knocks on wood
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BigCatDaddy 03:50 PM 10-07-2011
Is Tennessee starting to finally right the ship?
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DaKCMan AP 03:53 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Is Tennessee starting to finally right the ship?
Phil Fulmer got lazy and I warned all my Tennessee friends that Kiffin was the ultimate douche. Dooley may do ok there. They still get a top-15 recruiting class every year so if he can coach than they should get better. Their true sophomore QB is pretty damn good but their O-Line is shit.
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Saul Good 03:55 PM 10-07-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
You forgot Georgia and Florida was good before Urban.
Georgia is beatable. They're tough, but they're beatable. Florida was good under Spurrier, down under Zook, up under Urban, and TBD under Muschamp.
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