Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
The LT situation should have been handled in the offseason last year, not w/ desperate reactive decisions bringing in Humphries etc. during the latter part of the season. To me thinking they were good coming into the season w/ Kingsley and Morris as LT depth is a huge huge red flag and the NFL exposed how bad of a decision that was within the first few games.
One path I can think of would have been taking the tackle the Cowboys did (Guyton) instead of Worthy, prob a 1,000+ different things they could have done last off season. Mahomes with like 1.5 seconds average more to throw is a 40+ TD QB easily, but only having like 2 seconds even Brady/Manning/peak Rodgers would suck in these scenarios.
If they took Guyton instead of Worthy, they'd still have a hole at LT with no WRs outside of an injured Rashee Rice :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by SHOWTIME:
Enough. It's up to him to identify and acquire the necessary assets to protect Mahomes. That's not on members of CP.
It is if you’re going to be whiny adolescents about it and keep spouting things out of touch with reality.
You want to complain over and over again? Provide alternatives.
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
The LT situation should have been handled in the offseason last year, not w/ desperate reactive decisions bringing in Humphries etc. during the latter part of the season. To me thinking they were good coming into the season w/ Kingsley and Morris as LT depth is a huge huge red flag and the NFL exposed how bad of a decision that was within the first few games.
One path I can think of would have been taking the tackle the Cowboys did (Guyton) instead of Worthy, prob a 1,000+ different things they could have done last off season. Mahomes with like 1.5 seconds average more to throw is a 40+ TD QB easily, but only having like 2 seconds even Brady/Manning/peak Rodgers would suck in these scenarios.
Guyton was absolutely AWFUL this year. Couldn’t pass block. Couldn’t run block. Got flat-out dominated. [Reply]
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
It is if you’re going to be whiny adolescents about it and keep spouting things out of touch with reality.
You want to complain over and over again? Provide alternatives.
Guyton was absolutely AWFUL this year. Couldn’t pass block. Couldn’t run block. Got flat-out dominated.
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.
You named a fucking guy that went 13th overall to a divison rival in a draft where the Chiefs were picking 31st.
Naming a name that requires a lot more than just a signing, trade, or minor trade up in the draft isn't sufficient.
Again, you have no fucking clue whether that was even remotely a possibility. That's the entire point of asking for names. Stop being obtuse. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.
So how was Guyton supposed to help us this year, moron?
We're in the same boat except with no fucking WR. We're not even playing in the SB, and you're here bitching that we STILL don't have a LT, AND we have Jack shit at WR after Rice. That's where we'd be right now with your alternative.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So how was Guyton supposed to help us this year, moron?
We're in the same boat except with no ****ing WR. We're not even playing in the SB, and you're here bitching that we STILL don't have a LT, AND we have Jack shit at WR after Rice. That's where we'd be right now with your alternative.
****ing morons man.
Wow name calling, going to put you on ignore [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You've been doing this Slater shit for over a year and it's 100% unrealistic operating in hindsight nonsense.
Sorry that the only answer you can provide is entirely unrealistic and pretty fucking stupid considering that.
Wut. I pounded the table for Slater that entire off-season and wanted to give up multiple 1sts to do it. A very stiff price to pay but the dude was All Pro out the gate [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.
RIght? Maulata dropped to, what, the 6th round for the Eagles?
LT is the second most important position on this team. There should have been a good young prospect sitting behind OBJ so that he can just take over once he left via FA. You have to keep the pipeline going. Some teams love to overdraft on OL and DL prospects for this reason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Wut. I pounded the table for Slater that entire off-season and wanted to give up multiple 1sts to do it. A very stiff price to pay but the dude was All Pro out the gate
you have to trade up if necessary. Veech has shown that he's willing to do that as did Dorsey before him. [Reply]
