Okay, here is a place for the Golfers to talk about tournaments, clubs, swing help or thoughts.
Today is the Players Championship, which I think ought to be the 5th Major. Largest pot in the PGA. The daunting 17th, which seems to bring excitement every year. At least we will get to see Sergio blow up yet again.
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
He's #1 on the PGA Tour in scoring average. He's also #1 in total putting and #4 in strokes gained putting. Have no idea what you're basing your opinions on.
Watching him muck around fuck up on the greens at every major this year.
He's not #1 in putting, Phil is. Tiger is #14 in Putts/GIR and 54th in total putting.
Total putts is meaningless, it's skewed by your approach shot proximity to the hole. Hitting it tight results in fewer putts by definition. Doesn't mean you putted well.
I agree that strokes gained is a good metric, but it is not the "Total Putting" stat. Furthermore, only a buffoon could watch the majors and say with a straight face that Tiger's putting is not a problem. It obviously is, regardless of what he does at Doral. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I agree that strokes gained is a good metric, but it is not the "Total Putting" stat. Furthermore, only a buffoon could watch the majors and say with a straight face that Tiger's putting is not a problem. It obviously is, regardless of what he does at Doral.
Maybe he needs another lesson with Stricker. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
They'll have more. The average loft on irons has been strengthened by about 3-4* over the last 25 years. Your dad's 1 is your 2.
I was under the understanding that lofts have been weakened over the years, like old school 4 irons are our 3 irons, so forth. Thought I read that somewhere.
Researched this and found that Ben Hogan's 1 iron had more loft than today's 1 irons. The messageboard even had a debate of whether Hogan would be as effective with a modern 1 iron. Idiots. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
His driving accuracy is 57th, but he hits driver significantly less often than do other pros. He's 35th in GIR.
Yeah, if Tiger can get the driver back in gear again, I think he is undoubtedly the best in the game. Seems lately, and I mean the last 5 years or so, he has been pretty crappy with the big stick. Always having to scramble and make heroic shots from the rough or in the trees, this will bite your ass in the big tournaments.
I would almost like to see him go back to the driver he used in 2000, wonder if he still has it? I think it was a steel shaft Titleist, 6.5 degree. He hit that thing like 320 easy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
Yeah, if Tiger can get the driver back in gear again, I think he is undoubtedly the best in the game. Seems lately, and I mean the last 5 years or so, he has been pretty crappy with the big stick. Always having to scramble and make heroic shots from the rough or in the trees, this will bite your ass in the big tournaments.
I would almost like to see him go back to the driver he used in 2000, wonder if he still has it? I think it was a steel shaft Titleist, 6.5 degree. He hit that thing like 320 easy.
He used a Titleist 975D 7.5* w/ a DGX100 shaft.
He's crappy with the driver because he doesn't have the fast twitch speed he once did. More specifically, the Haney swing ruined his driver, as he got way too laid off at the top. He's better with it than he once was, but now he has a dual miss instead of just blowing everything 60 yards right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
I was under the understanding that lofts have been weakened over the years, like old school 4 irons are our 3 irons, so forth. Thought I read that somewhere.
Researched this and found that Ben Hogan's 1 iron had more loft than today's 1 irons. The messageboard even had a debate of whether Hogan would be as effective with a modern 1 iron. Idiots.
Old school four irons are our six irons.
Think about it this way: how do you think equipment manufacturers keep getting longer and longer distances out of their irons every year, especially TM? They don't do it via much innovation in the cavity backed iron, but by strengthening the loft.
Ping's Eye 2s, for example, had a 36* 7 iron. The G15s were 32* for the same club. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
He gets so steep with the driver and it gets stuck behind him, so he's either going to snap hook it left or blast it right.
He's trying to change it, but it's taking a while.
And FWIW, Hank Haney is an awful golf swing coach.
He's always gotten stuck. He even got stuck w/ Butch. One of his problems is that he doesn't have the hand speed to fix the face at impact anymore.
One thing I'll never understand, O'Meara aside, is how he was dumb enough to take on Haney as a coach. Haney literally quit playing golf because he had the driver yips.
Hell, have any of his players on his show actually gotten better because of what he's taught them? I imagine they are better golfers, but I'd bet it's due to practicing a lot rather than anything his dumb ass has taught them. [Reply]