The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.
For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.
A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.
The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.
Josh Allen shit his pants AT HOME against his bitter rival Chiefs. Dude fumble sixed the game away as well but the Chiefs wouldn't take the gift. Hardman fumbled inside the 1 to boot and he STILL couldn't get it done. IF HE DOESN'T PLAY HERO BALL on the final series, they could have won in regulation instead of putting it on Bass.
I'm sorry that the truth hurts but just like your battles with staylor...against Mahomes in the playoffs he comes up short! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Who's said that Allen is trash? I don't think that's been said at all. Personally think he's a top 5 QB at any given time and has games where he's the best QB in the league that week. What gets Allen the pushback from Chiefs fans in particular is this sentiment that he should be treated as an equal to Mahomes. We have over half a decades worth of games now to determine that's just not the case.
I didn’t say anyone said he’s trash, but you and Peej are definitely riding him for whatever reason. You said he hasn’t been all that good when you throw out his best playoff performances and also disagreed with the idea that he reigns in his dipshittery in the postseason?
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
The whole narrative around the second down throw with Jones is hilarious to me. All he has to do is slightly move one direction and the throw isn’t impacted at all.
But regarding dialing it back, earlier in that possession he made three consecutive terrible plays with forcing the ball or doing too much, with two of those of would have likely or come close to ending the game but he got bailed out.
On first down he threw a hospital ball to Diggs who was fortunate to not catch it. On second down he threw a perfect pick 6 to Sneed but McDuffie had a “great” pass break up on that one. Then on third down he ran it immediately after dropping back to pass and fumbled the ball which at minimum should have been a Chiefs recovery and was close to a fumble return for a TD.
I just went back and re-watched. I think you’re reaching a bit. The “hospital pass” definitely wasn’t a hospital pass and on the “perfect pick-6 to Sneed”, Diggs was the first one to get his hands on that pass. The fumble was a legit fumble; I will give you that.
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Also there is ZERO chance Mahomes tries the throw Allen did when Jones slightly nudged him. We know this because in the final OT drive Mahomes really wanted to go to the play they drew up for Kelce 15 yards downfield, where he even pumped it and changed his mind to not risk it unnecessarily, only to come back to the wide open check down to Pacheco. He took the easy open play even though it isn’t what he wanted. He kept his mental composure in a high pressure situation, which to this point is one of Allen’s biggest weaknesses.
I doubt that. Mahomes tried to throw a TD pass on our last play in regulation against the 9ers before settling for the field goal. [Reply]
You know what would make Josh Allen better? A WR who can track the deep ball really well, catch the ball and have threatening speed to open up force defenses to watch him deep and open up the middle of the field for guys like Dalton Kincaid.
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
What does riding him even mean? Do you mean deriding him? I always thought riding someone meant you were giving them too much praise.
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Eh, I think the INT business is way overblown. He’s scoring TDs at a clip that makes them a lot more palatable. And a lot like Mahomes, many of his INTs are basically arm punts.
It’s not as big of a deal bc of Allen’s immense ceiling. But these critics saying turnovers are the dealbreaker are the same guys blowing Brock Purdy who has 3 legit pro bowl weapons and a coach that has an amazing scheme running the football.
The LOS shit is dumb bc it leads to coaches like Sean Payton thinking Bo fucking Nix is as good or better than Allen bc “he’s wicked smahhht!” and will be Peyton Manning at the LOS!
In fact, I’d bet money that Sean Payton was this guy and thinks Bo Nix is better than Josh Allen today [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I didn’t say anyone said he’s trash, but you and Peej are definitely riding him for whatever reason. You said he hasn’t been all that good when you throw out his best playoff performances and also disagreed with the idea that he reigns in his dipshittery in the postseason?
I just went back and re-watched. I think you’re reaching a bit. The “hospital pass” definitely wasn’t a hospital pass and on the “perfect pick-6 to Sneed”, Diggs was the first one to get his hands on that pass. The fumble was a legit fumble; I will give you that.
I doubt that. Mahomes tried to throw a TD pass on our last play in regulation against the 9ers before settling for the field goal.
You need to watch this video for those three plays. That one you linked is leaving out a ton. The first down play Diggs settles to a spot but Allen kept leading him. If Diggs kept going where the ball is thrown he gets blown up. On second down Diggs doesn’t even come close to touching the ball because it was a terrible and forced throw. Again this video confirms it. McDuffie gets one hand on it preventing an easy INT for Snead.
On the later second down play Diggs may or may not get a first but he’s wide open for good yardage. The fact Allen didn’t throw it there but instead forced it to the end zone, while earlier forcing it to Diggs, proves he’s not out there thinking or reading on this last drive at all. Nearly every pass was just a force to someone without finding the best place to go.
Regarding the Mahomes play in the Super Bowl not even remotely comparable in situation or even in execution. Mahomes threw as safe a pass as you can. There’s no way you actually believe those are similar situations or that QB handled them similarly at all. The one I specifically referenced where Mahomes pulls it back for the easy smart yards is almost an exact mirror situation of Allen passing on Diggs for the force to the end zone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
I love to trash Burrow too...Problem?
Burrow isn’t asked to do nearly as much as Mahomes or Allen. In two playoff games against us, he’s got 3 TDs to 3 INTs and hasn’t broken 300 yards. I still don’t think he’s even thrown a 4th quarter TD against us yet.
If Allen put up those kinds of numbers against us, we’d beat them by double digits every time.. but as it stands, Burrow’s got the only win against us in the playoffs between the two.
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
What does riding him even mean? Do you mean deriding him? I always thought riding someone meant you were giving them too much praise.
Like, riding his ass in a negative manner.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
It’s not as big of a deal bc of Allen’s immense ceiling.
Right, which has been my point from the beginning (along with the fact that Allen dials back the turnovers in the postseason). [Reply]
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
You need to watch this video for those three plays. That one you linked is leaving out a ton. The first down play Diggs settles to a spot but Allen kept leading him. If Diggs kept going where the ball is thrown he gets blown up. On second down Diggs doesn’t even come close to touching the ball because it was a terrible and forced throw. Again this video confirms it. McDuffie gets one hand on it preventing an easy INT for Snead.
On the later second down play Diggs may or may not get a first but he’s wide open for good yardage. The fact Allen didn’t throw it there but instead forced it to the end zone, while earlier forcing it to Diggs, proves he’s not out there thinking or reading on this last drive at all. Nearly every pass was just a force to someone without finding the best place to go.
Regarding the Mahomes play in the Super Bowl not even remotely comparable in situation or even in execution. Mahomes threw as safe a pass as you can. There’s no way you actually believe those are similar situations or that QB handled them similarly at all. The one I specifically referenced where Mahomes pulls it back for the easy smart yards is almost an exact mirror situation of Allen passing on Diggs for the force to the end zone.
Looks like Allen clearly dirted that first pass once he realized Diggs was double covered. That’s a throwaway on 1st down. Not a terrible play.
I see from this angle that Diggs didn’t get a handle on the 2nd down ball so good catch there. Not a great read or throw in that situation. Not sure where a 3 yard out against zone coverage was supposed to go.
I’m a little confused as to what your issue with the 2nd down missed TD is, if I’m being honest. That was a TD. Dude was wide open in the end zone and Allen went for the dagger. That is definitely some shit Mahomes would do.
Romo was jizzing about Diggs being wide open underneath but he was running like a 4 yard drag. He had Drue Tranquil shadowing him across the field and he was running into another defender who was covering an out route on that side of the field. On 2nd and 9, that play was not likely to convert for a 1st down.
I’m not sure which play you’re referring to in the Super Bowl. You’ll have to link it. Regardless, I’m having trouble figuring out how it relates. The missed TD throw on 2nd down was NOT a risky play. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Looks like Allen clearly dirted that first pass once he realized Diggs was double covered. That’s a throwaway on 1st down. Not a terrible play.
I see from this angle that Diggs didn’t get a handle on the 2nd down ball so good catch there. Not a great read or throw in that situation. Not sure where a 3 yard out against zone coverage was supposed to go.
I’m a little confused as to what your issue with the 2nd down missed TD is, if I’m being honest. That was a TD. Dude was wide open in the end zone and Allen went for the dagger. That is definitely some shit Mahomes would do.
Romo was jizzing about Diggs being wide open underneath but he was running like a 4 yard drag. He had Drue Tranquil shadowing him across the field and he was running into another defender who was covering an out route on that side of the field. On 2nd and 9, that play was not likely to convert for a 1st down.
I’m not sure which play you’re referring to in the Super Bowl. You’ll have to link it. Regardless, I’m having trouble figuring out how it relates. The missed TD throw on 2nd down was NOT a risky play.
The second down play is bad because for one, it wasn’t even close to a dagger. The game situation absolutely matters there. Also either Jones is pressuring him and it’s a risky throw that could get tipped, off target, etc, or it’s a wide open TD that Allen should hit almost every time. It can’t be both. Pretty lucky it fell harmlessly as it is. And if he’s going to throw he’s got to have the awareness to step a few feet in either direction to avoid the pressure. But if he’s feeling the need to get rid of the ball then he should have done the safe easy throw to set up, at minimum, third and short instead of going for what turned into a challenging throw because of pressure and not avoiding it.
The play where Mahomes pumps and pulls it back is here at 30:40. Somewhere someone posted the all-22 showing they had something called for Kelce that looked a little iffy. There was a window but it wasn’t worth the risk so be checked it down. You know he would have loved a big chunk play to Kelce but he didn’t just go with it without evaluating the situation.
'Risky' isn't the term I'd use for that throw on 2nd down. It was an outright wrong decision OR playcall given the context the game was in. With a touchdown you're leaving the Chiefs nearly two full minutes of game time and 4 downs against a defense that has prevented them from scoring on two drives all game (and one of those was a complete gift courtesy of Hardman). [Reply]
